North and South Korea vow to end Korean War

SaintKP said:
I'm genuinely curious what was said to Kim or what exactly happened for the complete 180 turn around and like @Ocoka said, how do a people that have been bombarded daily for multiple generations with pro-NK propaganda reconcile that the imperial devils aren't that bad?
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There's an assumption that the people totally believe it. Remember there's a lot of communication *into* DPRK by NGOs, governments, even people using Chinese cellphone networks so there's something of a counter-balance. Not to mention word of mouth with trusted friends.
 
SaintKP said:
I'm genuinely curious what was said to Kim or what exactly happened for the complete 180 turn around...
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I believe Xi had summoned Kim to come to Beijing...and I suspect Xi had
led him to the mountain of reason by explaining, in no uncertain terms, that nuclear belligerency against the U.S. and it's allies was presenting the PRC with a number of problems, including disruption of the long range business plan. I also suspect an ultimatum was given, possibly the threat of withdrawing military support should NK trigger a war. Whatever it was, it was significant enough to cause an astonishing change.
 
SaintKP said:
I'm genuinely curious what was said to Kim or what exactly happened for the complete 180 turn around and like @Ocoka said, how do a people that have been bombarded daily for multiple generations with pro-NK propaganda reconcile that the imperial devils aren't that bad?
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Their Grandmaster will tell them they aren't bad and since they worship him...they will fall in line like the good sheep they are....
 
Agoge said:
Their Grandmaster will tell them they aren't bad and since they worship him...they will fall in line like the good sheep they are....
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Yeah, but it makes you wonder what kind of emotions are smoldering under the blanket of oppression. And how many secret enemies has Kim made over the years with his flame thrower executions etc? He has instilled fear...but in doing so he has plenty of reasons to fear reprisal, revolt and assassination. The new cuddle-bear Kim is walking the tightrope.
 
Ocoka said:
Yeah, but it makes you wonder what kind of emotions are smoldering under the blanket of oppression. And how many secret enemies has Kim made over the years with his flame thrower executions etc? He has instilled fear...but in doing so he has plenty of reasons to fear reprisal, revolt and assassination. The new cuddle-bear Kim is walking the tightrope.
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No doubt. I have always believed that much of the NK's are doing what they know to do to stay alive and eat. The older generations who have been brainwashed for generations are beginning to die away and the younger generations are being brought up with "under-the-table-technology" being brought in by outside sources.

Freedom tastes good to those that have never really had it. Once they taste of it and see it's good, they will want more.
 
I'm just wondering how long it will take to remove all the mines in the DMZ. That shit will probably take 25 years alone...but the good part is South Korea is about to have a shit load of cheap labor coming their way...we shall see how their middle class likes their sisters and brothers to the North when the bottom starts to fall out...

"We need a wall"

That said, it's about fucking time that shit finally got some kinda progress going... I do tend to wonder how this will effect our strategic reach in the area if we start troop withdraws. Back to Japan, or is Thailand going to be the new spot...hell we are selling a fuck load of weapons to Vietnam, maybe, just maybe we can go full retard.

But really, I wonder how this will effect our long term goals in the region, mainly trade and international waters commerce. Just thinking outload.
 
CryptoLingUSMC said:
Reunification, peaceful or otherwise, is a fantasy. North Korean defectors already occupy the lowest level of South Korea's rigid Confucian social hierarchy. Koreans, as a rule, constantly look for reasons to support why someone else is inferior, and simple unsubstantiated gossip is more than enough reason. The two cultures are completely different after so many years of separation, and they would not peacefully coexist. Reunification would collapse the South Korean economy, all former North Koreans would be blamed and civil war would rage for generations.
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I think the South would have to feed the North, and slowly annex parts of North Korea. Otherwise your economic collapse statement happens (look at West Germany/East Germany).
 
Secretary Pompeo wore Army Men socks to meet with the North Koreans. Interesting fashion statement.


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DA SWO said:
I think the South would have to feed the North, and slowly annex parts of North Korea. Otherwise your economic collapse statement happens (look at West Germany/East Germany).
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I think the South Koreans could quite quickly set up and run farms in the North using modern methods. It's not like there's a lack of land up there. Well I mean some is irradiated, but still.
 
Kraut783 said:
US monitoring intelligence that North Korean leader is in grave danger after surgery

US monitoring intelligence that North Korean leader is in grave danger after surgery
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Wonder who the docs were that actually performed the surgery - were really DPRK (if so, how good are they really) or do you think they brought in some docs, perhaps from China?

I'm sure supreme leader will make a remarkable comeback soon but, if not, I wonder what that succession plan looks like.
 
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Blizzard said:
Wonder who the docs were that actually performed the surgery - were really DPRK (if so, how good are they really) or do you think they brought in some docs, perhaps from China?

Do you think the docs gave it their all? If they wanted to change things up, maybe they don't do their best work. The other side of the coin is that they most definitely do their best because if he doesn't make it, they face a firing squad. Of course, there is the third option, maybe they really adore the man and gave it their all for supreme leader.

Anyway, I'm sure supreme leader will make a remarkable comeback soon but, if not, I wonder what that succession plan looks like.
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He doesn’t have a clear successor, from what all I’ve read so far. He’s not even forty yet, so why would he think about that? He hasn’t been the supreme leader for an entire decade yet; coupled with his young age and ruthlessness, I’d say he viewed naming a successor as a threat to his absolute power.

Certain bullshit artists with camera/Twitter access have already reported, then quickly retracted, on Kim being comatose and possibly brain dead. I’ll believe it when they livestream his funeral, offering heartfelt condolences to the brainwashed slaves of the Hermit Kingdom, if then.
 
DA SWO said:
Increasing number of sources are claiming that Rocket Man is on life support.
FWIW His sister is said to be as ruthless as he is and IIRC his younger brother isn't interested (which is probably why he isn't dead).
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No lie, I forgot about her. She’s going to be a force to contend with.

Who wants to wager she enabled his Hennessy and fattening food habits so she could take over upon his early demise?🤣
 

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