Not picking on you here, LogDog, but this comment reminded me of a point I had for this thread. We don't do ourselves any favors as a group by acting like every single person who has never served is a dope smoking, pacifist, whiney piece of shit. I am guilty of it as well, but we do the exact thing we blast others for at times. I took several semesters at a CC in Virginia, and there were definitely students that fit the stereotype we typically apply to non-vets. However, the majority of them did not fit this stereotype. Most were ignorant, but a lot of them were genuinely interested in learning more about the military and how being a veteran shaped a differet worldview. Going into college with the attitude that everyone you meet is going to fit a certain stereotype is not setting yourself up for success.