Russian T 14

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In your worst nightmare.....
A new age of tanks with more technology.. . It may be Russian; but there are a lot of new stuff in it.....
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Never underestimate the Russians.
That said, I'm looking forward to this tank running up against an Abrams/Challenger/Leopard and seeing the results.
 
I know nothing about tanks other than that the Soviets built good ones...and I rode on top of a few Marine tanks like a good leg and looked down into the hatch of one and was surprised to see automatic transmission and a steering wheel.
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What I see as possible vulnerabilities.

a. How much maint is needed as opposed to what they get.... The May Day Parade tanks are separate polished show pieces.
b. An auto loader. Russian auto loaders are notoriously slow and high maintenance.
c. Few, if any direct vision ports. Mostly video camera.... How do video lenses deal with lasers or having mud a few inches thick slobbed over them?
d. Only 32 rounds in the auto loader. Only 12 more on board storage.
d. Exposed tracks.
e. Gas powered.
f. Three man crew.... I bet the -10 and busting track on that behemoth is a bitch.
 
c. Few, if any direct vision ports. Mostly video camera.... How do video lenses deal with lasers or having mud a few inches thick slobbed over them?

WWII anecdotes are full of tanks firing anything at other tanks, if only to blind and disorient the other crew until yours could load an AP round. These guys would have to win every engagement at long range to avoid a similar fate from Bradleys and "below".
 
I wonder how they are getting 7-8,000 meters out of the main gun.

Are they talking high angle, or some Russian version of a LAHAT?
 
I don't know enough to compare modern tank armament with WWII, but Tiger 1 and 2 tanks have several documented kills at 4km.
 
Really!? WOW!

http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3722

A few combat examples:

• 21Jul1944, area of Iwaczow (Poland): 1 Tiger I destroys 1 JS-1 at 4000m ! (Schneider)
• 6Mar1945, area of Seregelyes (Hungary). 2 Tiger II’s destroy 6 JS-2’s at 2000m (Schneider)
• 19Apr 1945, Bollersdorf (Germany): 4 Tiger 2 attacked and destroyed 120 T-34-85 and JS-2’s, at ranges of 1,5 – 3km. The battle raged for a few hours, with about 30 T-34s destroyed during the night. (All tank commanders were given the Knight Cross on the 28th of April)
• 20Apr 1945, Klostendorf, Germany: 1 Tiger 2 of the SS-103rd Panzer destroyed 13 soviet tanks at ranges of 2-4km.

I looked up a few of those and they seem to be legit.
 
I vaguely recall some mention in...I think Beevor's Berlin: The Downfall where dug-in Tigers and the like at the Oder river scored repeated hits at distances of greater than 2km. The gun coupled with an excellent optical 5x sight arguably made that the best armored weapons system in WWII.

For all of Germany's engineering prowess their weapons still suffered from grave design flaws. That coupled with allied air attacks on factories and resources doomed their weapons programs. America had similar engineering issues (particularly on the B-29) but not across the board like Germany. I think they over thought their systems.

Ironically, many in the West talk about Germany's technological superiority, but forget/ ignore the West winning with many "good enough" systems. Today's military strategy in the West? Small programs with highly advanced systems. Quantity has a quality all it's own...
 
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