SAR Pack

[Manolito]

I laugh at the expression untrained volunteers. Getting in the way and not knowing what they are doing. I went on one for a deaf boy and the four I was with all instructors had taught most of the Professionals their craft and we were told no place for untrained amatuers. I love Humility. The professionals missed him but we found him in a cleared area all us untrained professionals.
Let me see paul as our medic, Pardus as our tracker, hollis as our weapons man, Several on communications. Sorry I got carried away this is a sore spot for me.
Bill

PS I took two professionals to a DAN facility for pain only recompression sickness. amatuers Fuck

 

[Muppet]

I laugh at the expression untrained volunteers. Getting in the way and not knowing what they are doing. I went on one for a deaf boy and the four I was with all instructors had taught most of the Professionals their craft and we were told no place for untrained amatuers. I love Humility. The professionals missed him but we found him in a cleared area all us untrained professionals.
Let me see paul as our medic, Pardus as our tracker, hollis as our weapons man, Several on communications. Sorry I got carried away this is a sore spot for me.
Bill

PS I took two professionals to a DAN facility for pain only recompression sickness. amatuers Fuck

Um, you ok brother? Sore subject?

F.M.

 

[Mac_NZ]

Or.... use the old SF trick... One VS-17 can be cut down to a series of highly visible strips that can be carried in your cargo pocket, with both sides (orange and whateverthehell they call the reverse color) available for use as needed.... sew 2 foot pieces of 550 cord onto the corners and they're great for long marking trails or signaling aircraft... or tying to the top flap of your ruck.... One VS-17 will make 6 2'x1' panels ( the whole panel is 2' wide by 6' long...)

much more functional to have it in your cargo pocket than the flap of your ruck.

I can picture that working well, pilots like flapping visible things.

I can also picture you dancing around the bush with it like this

 

[AWP]

Some days I'm glad I can't see the videos.

 

[buffalo61]

Some days I'm glad I can't see the videos.

Must have the same network restrictions.

I'm still working on acquiring a couple of Mystery Ranch packs for "testing" purposes, but ran into a snag with the supply chain. From what I've read and people that I have talked to, the Mystery Ranch setups are the way to go, but can get a little pricey. The setup I was going for was around $800, but that included the NICE frame and some add-on accessories.

I'm also looking into the Tactical Tailor set-ups. I've heard nothing but good things about their set-ups.

 

[Frisco]

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Don't get me wrong.. There's a place for everybody; During a land search manpower is one of the most powerful resources that you can have. When I say untrained volunteers I mean literally untrained volunteers, not a slight toward anybody, not referring to amateurs (I think the flooding in Nashville showed we have some of the most professional amateurs around and I feel honored to work with any of them), just people who show up that you don't know from Adam.

I've met MANY untrained volunteers I would rather have with me than professionals.. But when your talking about people you've never met before, at least you have a base line of knowledge with people who have been through some type of training. I've seen people show up who could track a flee, but I've also seen a lot more untrained people do a lot of stupid, dangerous, stuff, especially when people close to the victim start getting emotional.

Like I said there is a place for everybody, it's just that considerations must be made, especially in today's sue happy society. The days were people were just grateful for all the help they could get are long gone.. If we send out untrained people and they get hurt, that's on us. If we send out untrained people and we find the victim 3 days later in an area they cleared, we open ourselves up to lawsuit (not just that, but we failed, the victim, the family, the community, and that's unacceptable.).. If you take the comment as a quip toward anyone take it toward society, not the people who wish to volunteer their time to help.

 

[HOLLiS]

What I would recommend, is to take your time, watch what other people (experience ones) are using, read and then make a decision. What I would carry is based on me. Obviously a unit may require certain things, but I tend to fine tune it to my needs and thoughts. Having been in Mountain Rescue, SAR and CERT, experience is the best teacher.


Volunteers are a mix bag, some very professional and some, well let say we would be better off if they stayed at home and watched TV. My best and most professional unit that I was a member of was Corvallis Mountain Rescue. Core leadership was very very good and many of he members have strong medical backgrounds. The other aspect is training. The more the better.