SAS Want Ammo Upgrade

[Crusader74]

The HK-417 was simply awesome. We had a trial one at work as a DMR but it came with 3 different length barrels. With the 10.5" on it and an aimpoint it was an absolute beast. We ended up with the LMT so the pipe dream of being able to justify a TOE increase went out the window

Like this..lol

 

[Ravage]

I like the brass pouch.

Aussies seem to get along with the platform pretty well also:

 

[surgicalcric]

The HK416/417 while ok isnt an better IMHO than a weapon using a gas impingement system.

If I were looking for a 7.62 battle rifle I would look at the OBR.

 

[Etype]

This did me pretty good.

More accurate than the M110, handles pretty well for CQB (not as light or as short as a 10.5" M4, but it's a compromise), and the combination of a 15x optic and reflex sight was priceless.

 

[Ravage]

Sweet pic!

 

[reed11b]

More accurate than the M110,

THAT is the reason for the HATE. Pure envy.
Reed

 

[amlove21]

I liked the CAR heavy also. Although the HK417 allowed me to couple it with the 320 (grenade launcher) on the bottom rail.

That is a sweet setup though. Glass lets you shoot as far as you see.

 

[DKsniper]

I've Used the 417 on two tours in Afghanistan, and I'm not a Big fan.
The front rail is too heavy, the magazines are too bulky, the trigger is one of the worst I've tried.

 

[x SF med]

That was the Assymetric Warfare Group. They are technically an "SMU," but they are not SOF. It's kind of strange.

I like what you did there (If it was intentional)... otherwise you need an NCO to proofread for you to catch typos. Sso, Sir, once again you have fomented dissent in my brain, I can't be sure if you are clever, or without supervision.....:wall::-"

 

[Polar Bear]

Like this..lol

I always need a can when I am shooting from a bird so no one hears me. Fucking stupid

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

I always need a can when I am shooting from a bird so no one hears me. Fucking stupid

Not really if your zeroed with the can and you have POA/POI change by removing the can. However, being that he is running an EOTech, I will agree, its kind of stupid.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

As for the 7.62 debate. I'm kind of shocked the SAS doesn't have a 7.62 platform. I love 5.56, but agree 7.62 wins in the long range department. CQB with 7.62 (although very doable) wouldn't be my first choice.

My $.02

 

[Polar Bear]

Not really if your zeroed with the can and you have POA/POI change by removing the can. However, being that he is running an EOTech, I will agree, its kind of stupid.

He has a damn bean bag for a rifle rest. If he can not make adjustments, there is 2 reasons for the photo and your reasons are unjust. He is not a professional, or it is a photo op. Does anyone else see the stupid in this? Not directed at you JAB.

 

[x SF med]

He has a damn bean bag for a rifle rest. If he can not make adjustments, there is 2 reasons for the photo and your reasons are unjust. He is not a professional, or it is a photo op. Does anyone else see the stupid in this? Not directed at you JAB.

... and... the bird is on the ground, without rotors turning... staged photo op.

 

[DKsniper]

I always need a can when I am shooting from a bird so no one hears me. Fucking stupid

It can also be an recoil issue, and if you change position and fire from inside the helo, then the pilots wont freak out.

 

[CQB]

As for the 7.62 debate. I'm kind of shocked the SAS doesn't have a 7.62 platform. I love 5.56, but agree 7.62 wins in the long range department. CQB with 7.62 (although very doable) wouldn't be my first choice.

My $.02

Cut off the barrel just front of the leaf sight. If you don't whack 'em the flame should either:
A) make them shit themselves with fright
B) singe their eyebrows.

 

[Crusader74]

He has a damn bean bag for a rifle rest. If he can not make adjustments, there is 2 reasons for the photo and your reasons are unjust. He is not a professional, or it is a photo op. Does anyone else see the stupid in this? Not directed at you JAB.

He is a professional with 15+ years in SOF to date. I don't know why he used a can but I'm guessing Jab is probably right in his assertion it has something to do with zeroing . I'll ask him and see what he says.

In relation to the bean bag, I'm assuming they tried various techniques for shooting from a helo and this worked best.. There is a video floating around with them in Tchad with French SOF using various techniques for a stable platform shooting from a helo.

At 3.00mins they're using the can to fire from a helo.

 

[TLDR20]

Yeah suppressor a are used for a variety of reasons apart from sound reduction.