So is both the M17 and M18 trash or what?

This post on reddit explains a lot. For the 91F's and 18B's, prepare for some actual engineering math.


First, that Reddit post is gold: no bias, no subjectivity, just math.

Second, he said the following, which is what I have been saying (differently) for years: "Glock’s “factory” world is one uniform geometry; SIG’s factory catalog is so broad it functions like an aftermarket buffet, so every P320 owner has to verify their own build and holster fit in an ecosystem managed but not manufactured by SIG directly."

I had a SIG 1911, which, after a couple trips back to SIG to have an issue fixed, was a remarkably great gun. But the dimensions were just different enough from a 'normal' 1911 that it required a different holster that only a couple manufacturers made, of course.
 
That particular reddit is a rarity, they are heavy handed with the idiots you're talking about. Which is why they weren't there commenting to enflame it.

Guntubers and folks wanting to discuss this or any issue, all need to be professional and leave the cringe, biasedness, jokes that are more to taunt and bully than to actually be funny, the edginess, and smug faces (Looking directly at YOU Ben Stoeger) in the garbage where that crap really belongs.

This could have been addressed a long time ago if the 2A community would stop acting like children that were never taught manners and how to be a grown adult being professional, objective, and respectful. I can almost guarantee this is why Sig went "lalalalalalala...." because of douchebags with mouths that needed their teeth kicked in.
 
I'm certain that Sig Sauer is getting maximum value out of their Senior Military Advisor right now...

...after all, that guy HAD to be doing a good job to help them sell us a couple of long guns that fire Sig proprietary cartridges that cannot be used for training

I feel like most of this is just a great big misunderstanding.
 
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"Can I interest you in something in a nice 7.62?"

"Boring, darling. Been there done that."

"Perhaps a nice 6.5 Grendel?"

"Hmmm. Thank you, no. But getting closer."

<Opens special vault> "Now here is a very nice, rare, and proprietary .277 Fury. Very hard to find, very expensive, and oh, you really can't train with it."

"Sold!!"
 
If Blaber and Haney can be PNG'ed over a TV show and books, shouldn't the unit do the same to a guy who helped sell Sig's defective shit to the DoD, especially when his old unit adopted 1911's and Glocks, not Sig's?
 
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