Terror at Nairobi Mall Leaves at Least 30 Dead

[Kraut783]

Dang....RIP to the victims.

"Somali's rebel group al-Shabab vowed in late 2011 to carry out a large-scale attack in Nairobi in retaliation for Kenya's sending of troops into Somalia to fight the Islamic insurgents."

http://abcnews.go.com/International/nairobi-kenya-mall-shooting-30-dead-attack/story?id=20328346

 

[Chopstick]

The news is not encouraging.
http://news.msn.com/world/39-dead-in-kenya-mall-attack-hostages-still-held?gt1=51501&stay=1

At least 39 people were killed and more than 150 wounded in the assault, Kenya's president announced on national TV, while disclosing that his close family members were among the dead.

Early Sunday morning, 12 hours after the attack began, gunmen remained holed up inside the mall with an unknown number of hostages. President Uhuru Kenyatta called the security operation under way "delicate" and said a top priority was to safeguard hostages.

 

[tova]

RIP, Godspeed, PBS....

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Fucking incredible that this is not happening here. File this under "why I carry" everywhere I go...

 

[Kraut783]

This is what's scares the crap out of me, can you imagine this happening in the US? Total melt down. I'm with you ooh-rah....I carry 24/7.

 

[Chopstick]

The Prime Minister's Office released a statement identifying 29-year-old Annemarie Desloges, an official in the Department of Citizenship and Immigration who served in Canada's High Commission to Kenya, as one of those killed.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/canadi...aimed-by-al-qaeda-linked-group-1.1863137?cid=

 

[JHD]

Since the targets were Christian, I think we are safe from POTUS issuing another red line threat. RIP to the deceased.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Fuck. I can only try to imagine the terror these families went through.

Recite some prayer and you may leave. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

9-11 aside, we are so insulated as a country. As @Kraut783 said, we would have a complete national meltdown as a country if something even remotely similar were to happen here.

BUT...would our police response be different than what happened over there? In the day of cell-phones on every hip, (instead of a SIG) would the Bad Guys have time to do this before a million SWAT teams rained down on them?

 

[Chopstick]

Just heard a report on the TV that Israel is sending "negotiators" to help.

 

[RackMaster]

I wouldn't be surprised if we had a "Crisis Team" on its way.

 

[TheSiatonist]

Fucking cowards targeting women and children.

They'd be so naive to think that the "fear" the sow is still effective in pushing their agenda. Personally, I think these acts of terror solidify the resolve of more people to hunt these fuckers to the ground.

RIP to those who perished.

 

[Dame]

Fuck. I can only try to imagine the terror these families went through.

Recite some prayer and you may leave. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

9-11 aside, we are so insulated as a country. As @Kraut783 said, we would have a complete national meltdown as a country if something even remotely similar were to happen here.

BUT...would our police response be different than what happened over there? In the day of cell-phones on every hip, (instead of a SIG) would the Bad Guys have time to do this before a million SWAT teams rained down on them?

I think this happening here would indeed break the camel's back. It would take everything I had in the way of self control NOT to head to the mall with a rifle and a 1K round box of ammo. All my LE friends on here know they are the only reason I wouldn't. I respect the job and wouldn't interfere but I would goddamn motherfucking want to.

 

[Kraut783]

Just heard a report on the TV that Israel is sending "negotiators" to help.

Indeed...

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/09/22/325379/israeli-forces-enter-nairobi-mall/

THAT's really gonna piss off al-Shabab

 

[pardus]

This is a big move if the Israelis are indeed there.

Here's to them cleaning up these Al Shabab cowards.

 

[AWP]

It would take everything I had in the way of self control NOT to head to the mall with a rifle and a 1K round box of ammo. All my LE friends on here know they are the only reason I wouldn't. I respect the job and wouldn't interfere but I would goddamn motherfucking want to.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous this sounds?

 

[SpitfireV]

One sliver of light from this incident is that it points to the Kenyan work against Al-Shabab working effectively.

 

[Dame]

Do you have any idea how ridiculous this sounds?

You are right. It is. And I appologize for my temper.

 

[pardus]

One sliver of light from this incident is that it points to the Kenyan work against Al-Shabab working effectively.

It does?

 

[SpitfireV]

It does?

I think so. At the least it would show that they're feeling some pressure over it all. After all, why would they wait nearly two years after making the threat? To me the use of what I presume to be not-unlimited resources* for this attack, rather than Somalia operations shows they want to force the Kenyan hand into stopping the Kenyan African Union contingent.

That said, after I wrote this, I see on the BBC that the border is still porous, which isn't unexpected.

*I assume they don't have unlimited operational capacity but I'm not totally sure.

 

[pardus]

I think so. At the least it would show that they're feeling some pressure over it all. After all, why would they wait nearly two years after making the threat? To me the use of what I presume to be not-unlimited resources* for this attack, rather than Somalia operations shows they want to force the Kenyan hand into stopping the Kenyan African Union contingent.

That said, after I wrote this, I see on the BBC that the border is still porous, which isn't unexpected.

*I assume they don't have unlimited operational capacity but I'm not totally sure.

I'm sure they are pissed at the Kenyans. There has been cross border naughtiness going on for decades there, and it won't stop anytime soon.