Terrorist attack ongoing in France (14th July, Bastille Day)

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Fire erupts near Eiffel Tower after truck filled with fireworks ignites in Paris

Just fucking unreal.
 

A technical incident (a pretty huge fuck up in an industry that's so highly regulated) which occurred, by all chance, around the same time of this attack? Involving the country's most symbolic image?

We don't know if the 'incident' was purely accidental (and hugely coincidental), or if the 'technical incident' was in fact deliberately engineered to happen. The police's statement would still be correct in the latter case.

A truck doesn't need to blow up or kill anyone for it to count as terrorism. The Eiffel Tower engulfed in smoke is enough of an image itself to spread fear.

I wouldn't be surprised if the government is directing the police to deflect as much as they can on this, so it doesn't count as a 'win' for ISIS. They will likely deny it has anything to do with terrorism unless someone can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt -- even if it's entirely reasonable to suspect terrorism is related to it.

Hell, if the suspect who got iced in Nice had managed to get away, the government would probably be telling everyone that we can't make any assumptions about him either.
 
A technical incident (a pretty huge fuck up in an industry that's so highly regulated) which occurred, by all chance, around the same time of this attack? Involving the country's most symbolic image?

We don't know if the 'incident' was purely accidental (and hugely coincidental), or if the 'technical incident' was in fact deliberately engineered to happen. The police's statement would still be correct in the latter case.

To play the devil's advocate, professional grade fireworks are some seriously dangerous toys to play with. It doesn't take much to screw the pooch as far as that goes; it's not impossible that one of the guys on the fireworks team was suffering adverse emotional effects from the news coming out of Nice and bolloxed the operation. How probable that is, however, I can't attest to. I'm not there. Whether intentional or accidental, you are right that the sight of a smoke-shrouded Eiffel Tower makes for a pretty powerful PSYOP win for ISIS, but I don't see them seizing on it as a win in their playbook.
 
To play the devil's advocate, professional grade fireworks are some seriously dangerous toys to play with. It doesn't take much to screw the pooch as far as that goes; it's not impossible that one of the guys on the fireworks team was suffering adverse emotional effects from the news coming out of Nice and bolloxed the operation. How probable that is, however, I can't attest to. I'm not there. Whether intentional or accidental, you are right that the sight of a smoke-shrouded Eiffel Tower makes for a pretty powerful PSYOP win for ISIS, but I don't see them seizing on it as a win in their playbook.

Yes, we shall see. Though I don't expect anything from the officials.

On another note, I found this parody (of the liberal reporter who 'gets PTSD' from firing some guns) quite funny...



It felt to me like a M1-A1 Abrams— and sounded like an IFV.

One day after 73 people were killed in the Nice roadkilling, I traveled to Philadelphia to better understand the firepower of commercial assault-style trucks and, hopefully, explain their appeal to truck lovers.

But mostly, I was just terrified.

I’ve driven automobiles before, but never something like an assault truck. Push lightly on the throttle and the resulting explosion of torque is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).

The recoil bruised my lower back, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The traffic signs disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of exhaust and old upholstery made me sick. The horn — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after shifting the gears just a few times, I was anxious and irritable.

Even with a governor, it is very simple to hit 50 miles per hour before you even know what has happened. If illegally modified to remove the top speed restriction, it doesn’t take any imagination to see dozens of bodies falling in front of your bumper.

All it takes is the will to do it.

Seventy three people can be gone in 60 seconds.
 
To play the devil's advocate, professional grade fireworks are some seriously dangerous toys to play with. It doesn't take much to screw the pooch as far as that goes; it's not impossible that one of the guys on the fireworks team was suffering adverse emotional effects from the news coming out of Nice and bolloxed the operation. How probable that is, however, I can't attest to. I'm not there. Whether intentional or accidental, you are right that the sight of a smoke-shrouded Eiffel Tower makes for a pretty powerful PSYOP win for ISIS, but I don't see them seizing on it as a win in their playbook.

Disagree on the last sentence. They claim everything as a win, that's what is so frustrating to me (our media politicians not understanding that fact).

80 dead with another 50 injured.

From the Daily Mail (don't know how reliable they are)

Identity documents belonging to a 31-year-old French Tunisian were found in the truck according to security sources.

The source said: 'The identification of the truck driver is still underway.' The recovered documents indicate the man is a resident of Nice.

One eyewitness described seeing 'bodies flying like bowling pins' and 'hearing noises, cries that I will never forget' as the horror unfolded on a busy promenade at around 10.30pm last night.t

The truck driver was said to have shouted 'Allahu Akbar' — God is greatest — before being shot dead by police. Pro-ISIS groups have been celebrating the attack but as yet the terror group has not officially claimed responsibility.



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You must ban Assault Trucks.

After the Assault Trucks are banned they are coming after your Semi-Trucks.

But seriously though this guy did some serious psychological damage with all that carnage on the streets. Also taking out 84 and injuring more. This is worst than the Paris attack, the Paris attack had 6 or so attackers and only killed 130.

I'll say a truck is more dangerous than an AR/AK. The world has an ISIS problem.
 
Terrorist was alone in the vehicle and known to police. Sounds like some serious mistakes were made. He was permitted to sit parked in the vehicle for 9 hours, was questioned by police but since he stated he was "delivering ice cream; he was permitted to stay.

On CNN this morning, the handgun was a Tokarev, the rifle, explosives and grenades were fake.

Nice terrorist is NAMED as French-Tunisian Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel
 
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WTF has happened to French security? These guys--like the SDECE's Action service--used be unrelentingly preemptive against terrorists. Not always successful but aggressive as fuck. This fiasco, like the last one, looks like epic fail on the part of intel and inter-agency communication...either that or the fear of getting your ass handed to you by violating somebody's human rights.

Yesterday, on NPR, I'm listening to a panel compare Trump to Hitler because of his statements on Muslim immigration. It just seems to me the more violent our enemies become the more the leadership in 1st World countries, and those who think appeasement is the answer, want our balls to drop off.
 
It doesn't have much to do with Intel. That being said, they are stretched thin after that German cunt Merkel told half the Middle East they were welcome to take refuge in Europe. This guy wasn't even known to any agencies (just a criminal record, no signs of extremism).

What it has to do with is Islam. It shows that even the quiet people, who no one expects to be extremists, are still a risk.

We'll need a few thousand more deaths before more people will start to realise that Islam just isn't compatible with the Western world.

Not if you want a peaceful country anyway. But I'm starting to think our politicians don't really give a shit and just see these attacks as occasional inconveniences. It's not like Obama/Merkel or their family and friends will ever be affected by the delights of multiculturalism. So why would they care about the peasants?
 
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