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"Texas Governor's Call to Monitor Army Exercises Draws Criticism"
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Provide a bit more than just a link.. maybe some thoughts or something.
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We are not a news aggregation site. Please post commentary with the link or dont post at all.
For fuck's sake. These tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy fucks need to chill the fuck out.
Self-styled "patriot" group members suggested they may monitor the exercises on their own. Brilliant idea. Way to keep the citizens safe from this evil attempt at a hostile takeover of the great state of Texas!
Self-styled "patriot" group members suggested they may monitor the exercises on their own. Brilliant idea. Way to keep the citizens safe from this evil attempt at a hostile takeover of the great state of Texas!
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Well, since I am neither in the Military or living in Texas I feel my opinion is somewhat useless on the matter. Really just sharing to see what some of you guys who actually have legitimate opinions by being in the military and/or live in Texas had to say about it. Sorry if my post was a waste in the end, my intent was simply sharing the article.
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I understand, you obviously felt something or you wouldn't have posted it. This comment would have sufficed. But in the future avoid just posting links.
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The tinfoil on this one gets really big. This is one of the THE top things the nutters have been going crazy about for the past few months.
The theory is that this exercise is meant to prepare for the 'real' operation (by gauging reactions, etc, because residents are being asked to report any suspicious activity). The 'real' operation being when they'll come to take everyone's guns and force them into camps.
Yeah, because SOF troops would be really keen on enslaving their country's citizens and taking guns away from people. De oppresso liber? What the fuck is that, right?
The theory is that this exercise is meant to prepare for the 'real' operation (by gauging reactions, etc, because residents are being asked to report any suspicious activity). The 'real' operation being when they'll come to take everyone's guns and force them into camps.
Yeah, because SOF troops would be really keen on enslaving their country's citizens and taking guns away from people. De oppresso liber? What the fuck is that, right?
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True, got it.
I'm actually embarrassed by my own state...
A couple of weeks ago I was at the gun range and the two people that were there at the same time as me and my family member who took me there started talking about it and how they believed it was a takeover and that people would get their guns taken away, etc. It was a SMH moment. However, it goes to show what some of the people in that area (gun range was a ~30 minute drive from Bastrop) believe about it. Coming from Texas, this really surprises me. As the governor said, we've always (as far as I know, anyways) been pretty supportive of the military (though not necessarily the rest of the government) and I'm confused about where this sudden distrust came from. If martial law was really going to be declared like many people seem to believe, I think we'd have another Snowden or Manning moment where somebody would come out about it.
I am curious about how he plans to have the state guard "observe" it, though.
A couple of weeks ago I was at the gun range and the two people that were there at the same time as me and my family member who took me there started talking about it and how they believed it was a takeover and that people would get their guns taken away, etc. It was a SMH moment. However, it goes to show what some of the people in that area (gun range was a ~30 minute drive from Bastrop) believe about it. Coming from Texas, this really surprises me. As the governor said, we've always (as far as I know, anyways) been pretty supportive of the military (though not necessarily the rest of the government) and I'm confused about where this sudden distrust came from. If martial law was really going to be declared like many people seem to believe, I think we'd have another Snowden or Manning moment where somebody would come out about it.
I am curious about how he plans to have the state guard "observe" it, though.
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I wonder if the governor recently read 1984 and has become paranoid.
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This is retarded that it is news.
A few things.
So honestly... nothing to see here.
A few things.
- Jade Helm 15 is a multi-state exercise with dual status commanders (Title 32 & Title 10)
- Texas has a separate force (Texas State Guard) to do Defense Support to Civilian Authorities, whereas most states just use their specific National Guard.
- Since Jade Helm 15 has a major DSCA component, the Texas State Guard would be playing in the exercise anyway.
This is what DSCA is in the role of ESF 13.
So honestly... nothing to see here.
Pandering to voters.
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I can't remember what it was... but I know they've got some point they're fixating on which supposedly makes this totally different from Pineland.
I wish I did remember, because it was probably retarded funny.
No one is being smart here, neither the Governor nor the Army.
"Hostile Territory" (or some term similar) is common for exercises, that said someone should have taken today's political climate into account and used another term.
Gov wants to watch the SOF guys/gals; fine, make them OpFor and let them play in the exercise.
Tinfoil crowd may be full force here, but the current administration hasn't been overly friendly to this state (which allows the tinfoil crew the foothold they need).
"Hostile Territory" (or some term similar) is common for exercises, that said someone should have taken today's political climate into account and used another term.
Gov wants to watch the SOF guys/gals; fine, make them OpFor and let them play in the exercise.
Tinfoil crowd may be full force here, but the current administration hasn't been overly friendly to this state (which allows the tinfoil crew the foothold they need).
...To protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic....
Yup. We're going to enslave you and take away your guns. We'd never train you and organize you if an enemy invaded. I mean what stake would we have, we all live in a different country... our families, friends and pets are in that other country too. Yup we are slaves to some alien master come to set the infrastructure for the take over of our own home....
Retards, all the way through the government, and down into the population.
Yup. We're going to enslave you and take away your guns. We'd never train you and organize you if an enemy invaded. I mean what stake would we have, we all live in a different country... our families, friends and pets are in that other country too. Yup we are slaves to some alien master come to set the infrastructure for the take over of our own home....
Retards, all the way through the government, and down into the population.
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I don't think the Army did anything wrong. They have been saying what they were going to be doing for months.
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My daughter even emailed me about the reaction.... All I can do is sit back and watch. Fletcher Knebel did a better job than this in 'Seven Days In May'. (If you damn kids don't what that is about.... look it the fuck up.)
