The Afghanistan and Pakistan Thread

[CQB]

Pakistan ticks all the boxes. 60% illiteracy, limited water & a nuclear power. What's not to like?

 

[Deleted member 11415]

Pakistan ticks all the boxes. 60% illiteracy, limited water & a nuclear power. What's not to like?

I hate that fucking shithole of a country.

Edited to add an emoji for wry, emphatic disgust. Couldn't find one.

 

[CQB]

Can we import the @digrar beer drinker emoji?

 

[CDG]

We have a new plan!!! Despite the history there, I really think this could work well. There's a reason the saying goes, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". We have to deal with one problem at a time, in triage order, so this just makes sense.

Pentagon begins arming 'Taliban' militia group to fight ISIS in Afghanistan


IKIS

 

[Kraut783]

I kinda think we should have done that a long time ago....use the indigenous group against the foreigners (AQ/ISIS...etc). Worse thing we did was take power away from the warlords of the regions....IMO

 

[CQB]

My enemys' enemy is my friend...plus a change plus ca meme chose.

 

[DA SWO]

Let the Taliban have that shithole, the people deserve it.
We could have been gone long ago had Dummy not fucked the plan over via micro-managing.

 

[DocIllinois]

Let the Taliban have that shithole, the people deserve it.
We could have been gone long ago had Dummy not fucked the plan over via micro-managing.

We leave. They fight amongst each other and export more terrorists. Reports of human right violations build up.

Throw in something about vast mineral reserves, and how the West has a responsibility to save the country because we made it into a warring nation by backing religious organizations who fought the 1980s Russians.

We return.

 

[AWP]

We leave. They fight amongst each other and export more terrorists. Reports of human right violations build up.

Throw in something about vast mineral reserves, and how the West has a responsibility to save the country because we made it into a warring nation by backing religious organizations who fought the 1980s Russians.

We return.

The issue is that they don't want us there now and the country doesn't want to support itself. We have guys and gals dying for no reason if only to...defeat ISIL-K? Prevent terrorists using it as a base for global attacks? The Afghans pay lip service to peace and our contributions are in blood and treasure for an inevitable loss/ return to the status quo antebellum. Our departure and guaranteed civil war on a massive scale (they are currently waging one though no one will admit it) might just make them desire our return. Maybe. Hopefully. Until then we aren't accomplishing anything positive or lasting. The country can burn.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Afghanistan is the graveyard of armies. Why we continue this circle jerk idk.

 

[AWP]

As much as I hate to agree with the author...

There is No Other Way with Pakistan

Hence, the decision has already been made. There is no mood to cut any deal on the Haqqani Network. There was a time when Pakistan supported the Haqqani Network out of uncertainty, but that is no longer the case. The Pakistani establishment sees the Haqqani Network as not just its trump card but also the only card to stay in the game in Afghanistan — especially when the United States inevitably, in its view, fails to deliver. The continued American push on the Haqqani Network, therefore, is unlikely to force Pakistan to change its behavior, as it goes directly against its national interest.

@Marauder06 and I have said this about the HQN and Pakistan for...well, too long now.

The chatter in the Pakistani security establishment is that almost all players in Afghanistan have their preferred militant outfits that they support (American policymakers should keep in mind how Pakistan views the various forces under the umbrella of the Afghan National Security and Defense Forces). Why, then, should Pakistan give up on its long-held assets?

Other than being a known terrorist organization?

...the United States is in no position to influence Pakistan’s security policies in a meaningful way...

And this is the most damning, and truthful, statement of the entire article. The only thing missing is a "haha, we killed your friends and you can't do anything about it" statement.

Fuck Pakistan. I'd listen to Nickelback every day for the rest of my life if it meant the death of every man, woman, and child in that miserable dump.

 

[AWP]

And for those of you who think my commitment is hyperbole...

 

[Kraut783]

Nice looking girl in the video......just saying

 

[RackMaster]

Nice looking girl in the video......just saying

Agreed bit it doesn't counter that horrible sound...

 

[ThunderHorse]

So much Nickelback hate...

 

[Marauder06]

And for those of you who think my commitment is hyperbole...

I'm pretty sure this was the opening song that @Il Duce chose for the radio show he and I did together in Korea.

 

[SpongeBob*24]

No surprise there.....:blkeye:

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Well played payed Canada

Ex-Gitmo inmate gets apology, millions from Canada

TORONTO — A former Guantanamo Bay prisoner who pleaded guilty to killing a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan received an apology and a multimillion-dollar payment from the Canadian government after a court ruling said his rights were abused.

A government statement Friday said details of the settlement with Omar Khadr were confidential, but an official familiar with the deal said previously that it was for 10.5 million Canadian dollars ($8 million). A different official confirmed the money had been given to Khadr. Both insisted on speaking anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss the deal publicly.

 

[Poccington]

Fucking hell.

 

[DA SWO]

As much as I hate to agree with the author...

There is No Other Way with Pakistan



@Marauder06 and I have said this about the HQN and Pakistan for...well, too long now.



Other than being a known terrorist organization?



And this is the most damning, and truthful, statement of the entire article. The only thing missing is a "haha, we killed your friends and you can't do anything about it" statement.

Fuck Pakistan. I'd listen to The worst band in the history of ever every day for the rest of my life if it meant the death of every man, woman, and child in that miserable dump.

Leave Afghanistan and cut all immigration from Pakistan as a final fuck you would be nice.