US Infrastructure

[Ooh-Rah]

Because I don’t have enough to worry about…

Homeland Security team remotely hacked a Boeing 757

In 2017, DHS team remotely hacked Boeing 757 -
“FAA must focus on aircraft certification standards that would prevent a terrorist with a laptop in the cabin or on the ground from taking control of an airplane through the passenger Wi-Fi system.”

 

[Gunz]

Because I don’t have enough to worry about…

Homeland Security team remotely hacked a Boeing 757

In 2017, DHS team remotely hacked Boeing 757 -
“FAA must focus on aircraft certification standards that would prevent a terrorist with a laptop in the cabin or on the ground from taking control of an airplane through the passenger Wi-Fi system.”

I'll fly on helicopters and military prop aircraft any day of the week...and have many times up until my last helo flight a year ago. But I haven't flown on a commercial airliner since I flew LACSA from Costa Rica to Miami in 1989. And won't.

 

[TLDR20]

I'll fly on helicopters and military prop aircraft any day of the week...and have many times up until my last helo flight a year ago. But I haven't flown on a commercial airliner since I flew LACSA from Costa Rica to Miami in 1989. And won't.

Why not?

 

[The Quartermaster]

I'll fly on helicopters and military prop aircraft any day of the week...and have many times up until my last helo flight a year ago. But I haven't flown on a commercial airliner since I flew LACSA from Costa Rica to Miami in 1989. And won't.

I've been flown in the UH-1, UH-60, CH-47, C-5, C-17, and C-130's. I'd fly again in any one of them but never again in a C-130 voluntarily let alone paying for it, with cargo netting seats. I like still being able to feel my ass and back, makes me believe that I'm still alive an all that.

 

[Blizzard]

Why not?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[DA SWO]

I'll take Military over Civilian any day.

Military pilots don't get fried for saying no because of aircraft issues or crappy weather.
Airlines push pilots to go.

 

[Gunz]

Why not?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Lack of trust.

 

[talonlm]

I'd fly again in any one of them but never again in a C-130 voluntarily let alone paying for it, with cargo netting seats. I like still being able to feel my ass and back, makes me believe that I'm still alive an all that.

Flew as a loadmaster on one version or another of the C-130 for 24 years. I wholeheartedly agree with you. The engineer that designed those seats should spend eternity in Hell, half the day sitting on those seats, the other half conducting full reconfigs, seats to cargo, cargo to seats. Rigging seats was the worst part of the job. Hated those damned seats.

I'll take Military over Civilian any day.

Military pilots don't get fried for saying no because of aircraft issues or crappy weather.
Airlines push pilots to go.

I've worked with more than a few pilots over the last 35 (or so) years. I have yet to meet a pilot that wants to die and take all his passengers with him. I get your argument--pressure to perform, real or perceived--can absolutely be a killer. And I flew Allegient Air back in March to go watch my daughter graduate with her Master's. AFSOC's version of CRM (Crew Resource Management) actually addresses that 'pressure to perform' specifically. You do you, but I believe your concerns are misplaced here.

And cuss you for making me stick up for pilots.

 

[TLDR20]

I'll take Military over Civilian any day.

Military pilots don't get fried for saying no because of aircraft issues or crappy weather.
Airlines push pilots to go.

Flying on a US airline is one of the safest things you can do. Literally.

Lack of trust.

That is wild. Flying in a helicopter is significantly less safe in almost any condition. In fact most commercial fatal flight accidents are related to helicopters.

“if you are in an aircraft and the wings are moving faster than the fuselage, you are in a helicopter and inherently unsafe”

 

[Devildoc]

A helicopter pilot (UNC-CH AirCare, former army helo driver) told me that a helicopter is always trying to fall from the sky and his job is to prevent that.

I did enroute care in the Navy (CH-46, V-22, army UH-60) and was a flight medic with AirCare. That was the one job my wife 'made' me quit.

 

[AWP]

Pilots don’t want to kill everyone on their plane, but they are human and mistakes happen.

Mechanics don’t want to kill everyone on their plane, but they are human and mistakes happen.

ATC doesn’t want to kill anyone, but they are human and mistakes happen.

You eliminate, mitigate, or accept risk in everything you do.

 

[TLDR20]

Pilots don’t want to kill everyone on their plane, but they are human and mistakes happen.

Mechanics don’t want to kill everyone on their plane, but they are human and mistakes happen.

ATC doesn’t want to kill anyone, but they are human and mistakes happen.

You eliminate, mitigate, or accept risk in everything you do.

For sure. The absolute risk of flying is magnitudes safer than any other form of transportation though. In my job which for patients is very safe, almost approaching airline levels of safe, but not quite there, we often say, the drive in was 100x more dangerous than the anesthesia.

 

[GOTWA]

Pilots don’t want to kill everyone on their plane, but they are human and mistakes happen.

Mechanics don’t want to kill everyone on their plane, but they are human and mistakes happen.

ATC doesn’t want to kill anyone, but they are human and mistakes happen.

You eliminate, mitigate, or accept risk in everything you do.

And Boeing...just the whistle blowers.

 

[AWP]

And Boeing...just the whistle blowers.

That's eliminating risk.

 

[AWP]

Not knowing where else to put this @Ooh-Rah I'm dropping this here. Go earn that Red Tag pay!

Anyway, taking about our Navy earlier in this thread and the need to combat China, today I saw this:

Navy Frigate: Unstable Design Has Stalled Construction and Compromised Delivery Schedules

GAO blames new frigate's delay on Navy tampering with design, 'botched metrics' - Breaking Defense

“Navy decisions to substantially modify the frigate design from the parent design have caused the two to now resemble nothing more than distant cousins,” the report concludes. “Further, inadequate functional design review practices and botched metrics that the frigate program continues to rely on obscured the program’s actual design progress and contributed to prematurely starting lead ship construction before the design was sufficiently stable to support that activity.”

I've bitched about "concurrency" before, the mil has bitched about it, our elected officials have bitched about it...and nothing has changed. It leads to delays, a steep increase in cost, and usually a less superior product than envisioned. Concurrency is just a horrible program model. I think the Navy wants 20 ships (objectively, it could use more), but I expect this to clock in around 16-18 delivered.

 

[Gunz]

Not knowing where else to put this @Ooh-Rah I'm dropping this here. Go earn that Red Tag pay!

Anyway, taking about our Navy earlier in this thread and the need to combat China, today I saw this:

Navy Frigate: Unstable Design Has Stalled Construction and Compromised Delivery Schedules

GAO blames new frigate's delay on Navy tampering with design, 'botched metrics' - Breaking Defense



I've bitched about "concurrency" before, the mil has bitched about it, our elected officials have bitched about it...and nothing has changed. It leads to delays, a steep increase in cost, and usually a less superior product than envisioned. Concurrency is just a horrible program model. I think the Navy wants 20 ships (objectively, it could use more), but I expect this to clock in around 16-18 delivered.

This...on the heels of crazy Adm Clark's Littoral Combat Ship fiasco.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Not knowing where else to put this @Ooh-Rah I'm dropping this here. Go earn that Red Tag pay!

Then I choose ‘here’. Going forward, all of our ‘shitty ships’ posts can go in the Infastructure thread. (Thread’s merged)

 

[amlove21]

I know we collectively memory-holed this one, but do you guys know the crew of the Dali (the ship that ran into the FSK Bridge) has been sequestered, with minimal contact with family, for more than 60 days now? Without their cell phones? On what should be an active investigation scene?

Here's the timeline/refresher for you habitual noticers.

Ship crashes. Takes down bridge. Video emerges of vessel repeatedly losing power, at one point gaining power enough to steer a 20 degree overcorrection directly into the bridge pylon. Less than 24 hours later, Oatmeal Brains in the WH said the government would be paying for the bridge... why, again? Shouldn't the shipping company and their insurance pay for that? Oh, there's a coast guard investigation with one document (the convening document) so far? And nothing from the FBI?

Anyway, shit like this happens all the time. I blame it on the years long decline in infrastructure and the lack of funding. If only we hadn't spent $7B on 7 (seven) brand new EV chargers, we could have some money to spread around.

 

[ThunderHorse]

I know we collectively memory-holed this one, but do you guys know the crew of the Dali (the ship that ran into the FSK Bridge) has been sequestered, with minimal contact with family, for more than 60 days now? Without their cell phones? On what should be an active investigation scene?

Here's the timeline/refresher for you habitual noticers.

Ship crashes. Takes down bridge. Video emerges of vessel repeatedly losing power, at one point gaining power enough to steer a 20 degree overcorrection directly into the bridge pylon. Less than 24 hours later, Oatmeal Brains in the WH said the government would be paying for the bridge... why, again? Shouldn't the shipping company and their insurance pay for that? Oh, there's a coast guard investigation with one document (the convening document) so far? And nothing from the FBI?

Anyway, shit like this happens all the time. I blame it on the years long decline in infrastructure and the lack of funding. If only we hadn't spent $7B on 7 (seven) brand new EV chargers, we could have some money to spread around.

I'm still not understanding why they are on the damn ship at this time, or at least there hasn't been a rotation? They have been getting replenishment of groceries or are we dropping Navy MREs?

 

[Gunz]

I'm still not understanding why they are on the damn ship at this time, or at least there hasn't been a rotation? They have been getting replenishment of groceries or are we dropping Navy MREs?

We're going to build a 300-million dollar humanitarian pier out to the ship.