US Infrastructure

amlove21 said:
Are we ready to have the conversation about Pete Buttigieg and his decimation of American infrastructure (in light of the FAA Class A in DC) yet? We can wait a few more days if you want.
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I do (Pete sucked), but only because it lets me segue into one of the things I'd most like to see ANY politician do.

Create a modern version of The Civilian Conservation Corps to address both our issues of infastructure and dwindling blue-collar workforce.
This also serves to help get younger Americans to develop "skin-in the game" and educational benefits (through OJT) without requiring military service, so it may reach populations unable or uninterested in uniformed service.
 
Cookie_ said:
I do (Pete sucked), but only because it lets me segue into one of the things I'd most like to see ANY politician do.

Create a modern version of The Civilian Conservation Corps to address both our issues of infastructure and dwindling blue-collar workforce.
This also serves to help get younger Americans to develop "skin-in the game" and educational benefits (through OJT) without requiring military service, so it may reach populations unable or uninterested in uniformed service.
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Agree. Mayor Pete failed so hard he's the only Secretary of Transportation I have ever known by name. Maybe too much focus on racist bridges? Who knows.
 
Maybe we can give Mayor Pete just a "little" bit of credit - after all, dealing with racist brigdes was one of his priority initiatives.
...and now we all know that bridges are racist.
...without Mayor Pete, who knows how much worse those bridges would have gotten.
 
Box said:
Maybe we can give Mayor Pete just a "little" bit of credit - after all, dealing with racist brigdes was one of his priority initiatives.
...and now we all know that bridges are racist.
...without Mayor Pete, who knows how much worse those bridges would have gotten.
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I've never looked at it like that. Thank you for the education, I think we should give him some time off as a reward. Away from the public space, forever.
 
amlove21 said:
… planes crash all the time?

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Private aviation? We've had a few around here. The people that own planes don't actually fly enough...an expensive hobby. If you're gonna own a plane, you should probably be flying every weekend. I had a roommate at Knox who owned a plane, probably helped him get his wife, he flew from Columbus to Destin on a 4-day when we were in ABOLC at Benning err we say Moore now. When the COC found out he had a plane...whoa boy it got fun. When we lived together he flew it once to the Elizabethtown airport and then never again the entire time we lived together until he deployed to Afghanistan after he graduated Ranger School. So 5 Months of living together he didn't fly once.
 
Cookie_ said:
I do (Pete sucked), but only because it lets me segue into one of the things I'd most like to see ANY politician do.

Create a modern version of The Civilian Conservation Corps to address both our issues of infastructure and dwindling blue-collar workforce.
This also serves to help get younger Americans to develop "skin-in the game" and educational benefits (through OJT) without requiring military service, so it may reach populations unable or uninterested in uniformed service.
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There's been a lot of talk about that for a lot of years. GEN McChrystal was (is?) a proponent of one such policy.

I wonder why they stopped CCC in the first place?
 
Marauder06 said:
There's been a lot of talk about that for a lot of years. GEN McChrystal was (is?) a proponent of one such policy.

I wonder why they stopped CCC in the first place?
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It ended in 1942 with the start of WWII.

Technically it never really went away, it just switched into unpaid models. The job corps offer free residential training to teens/young adults and Americorps runs volunteer programs to work on community projects. There's also a litany of local/state/national corps as well.

These have their benefits, but I think reestablishing a paid version of it would be great. Just pluck the pay structure of the military and convert E1-E4 into "corp" ranks and contract people for 2-4 years.

I think the hardest thing to solve for would be lodging.
 
The government no longer needed to put hundreds of thousands of men to work because there was work err a war to fight. We haven't seen unemployment at that level since. I do wonder though with all the ICE raids if we'll actually see people return to the workforce?
 
Cookie_ said:
It ended in 1942 with the start of WWII.

Technically it never really went away, it just switched into unpaid models. The job corps offer free residential training to teens/young adults and Americorps runs volunteer programs to work on community projects. There's also a litany of local/state/national corps as well.
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ThunderHorse said:
The government no longer needed to put hundreds of thousands of men to work because there was work err a war to fight. We haven't seen unemployment at that level since.
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It was never meant to be a permanent agency; it was codified to draw down through the 40s, I want to say the projected end date was 1950, but I need to look that up. As y'all said, WW2 ended it prematurely.

I think there are some good things about reviving such a program, but the government costs would be enormous.
 

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