Venezuela

[Devildoc]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/russi...old-flies-to-unknown-location-lawmaker-claims
Not exactly the behavior of a man running a regime and thinks his power is solidified.

 

[Gunz]

My brother has a Venezuelan girlfriend who wanted him to go to VZ with her last Thanksgiving. I'm pretty sure I said he was a "fucking idiot" if he went and then explained why. Vagina being what it is and the power it holds had him convinced he would be safe. I eventually talked him out of it, one of my arguments being kidnapped gringos make for good ransom.

He didn't go, but the power of vagina...we'll have this conversation again.

Pussy is undefeated.

 

[Gunz]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/russi...old-flies-to-unknown-location-lawmaker-claims
Not exactly the behavior of a man running a regime and thinks his power is solidified.

This is not Maduro's private stash. This is Russia tying to recover some of its investment before it falls into the wrong hands. If true, it also indicates Russia isn't planning to prop Maduro up with force.

 

[DC]

well maduro does have Jeff...

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

Dog and pony show, pay close attention to the old men and women filling the ranks, and the lack of skill of the "instructor staff".

Never understood why dictators showed videos of their untrained "loyalist" fighters as to give some sense of power. lol

 

[Gordus]

1:40 sounds like political cleansings have begun.

 

[Gunz]

Dog and pony show, pay close attention to the old men and women filling the ranks, and the lack of skill of the "instructor staff".

Never understood why dictators showed videos of their untrained "loyalist" fighters as to give some sense of power. lol

If anything serious starts to go down at least half of the Army will defect to Guaido. But that opinion is predicated on the belief that the PRC, Russia, Cuba, and Iran--Maduro's string-pullers--will decide not to engage in a proxy war with the United States in our own hemisphere.

Both China and Russia are going to take a huge economic hit if Maduro goes down. I think VEN owes the PRC some $68-billion in loans. In order for them to back him militarily, they have to gamble that the incredible cost of war, far from their homelands, will reap dividends and help them recoup everything they've invested.

Is it worth it to them? Is Putin or Xi willing to get his country embroiled in a Western Hemisphere Vietnam to prop up an extremely unpopular regime? Even if it's only to divert attention from their actions respectively in Ukraine and the East China Sea? I think it's a real longshot.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

If anything serious starts to go down at least half of the Army will defect to Guaido. But that opinion is predicated on the belief that the PRC, Russia, Cuba, and Iran--Maduro's string-pullers--will decide not to engage in a proxy war with the United States in our own hemisphere.

Both China and Russia are going to take a huge economic hit if Maduro goes down. I think VEN owes the PRC some $68-billion in loans. In order for them to back him militarily, they have to gamble that the incredible cost of war, far from their homelands, will reap dividends and help them recoup everything they've invested.

Is it worth it to them? Is Putin or Xi willing to get his country embroiled in a Western Hemisphere Vietnam to prop up an extremely unpopular regime? Even if it's only to divert attention from their actions respectively in Ukraine and the East China Sea? I think it's a real longshot.

I'm not convinced that Russia or China truly possess the lift capabilities to forward deploy in our hemisphere. Yeah sure they can fly a few planes, until we start patrolling the air space. They can send a few cargo ships until we start blockaiding. They don't truly have a blue water Navy, not in the capabilities they would need.

Dumping arms and advisors would be their most likely approach, yet we have been in the region for 50 years. We have the intel/logistical networks in place to make this happen much faster then either Russia or China could possibly control or contend with.

As for protecting their investments, deals could be struck to allow a Regime change, while still having their debts repaid, as well as throwing China a bone on the oil production. Essentially, allow a Chinese company to restructure the oil production and put a guarantee for 20 or so years of supply. They pay for the upgrades, they pay Venezuela for the supply at a moderately reduced price, everyone walks away happy.

Until China has a true blue water Navy, who cares if they have tankers and a few people in Venezuela? Saves us money on rebuilding, allows us to get our guy incharge, makes Columbia and Brazil mucho happy, further isolates Cuba and Bolivia (one less ally in our hemisphere).

Just thinking out loud here...

 

[Centermass]

Military coup is underway.

Situation is in flux and still developing.

 

[Devildoc]

Military coup is underway.

Situation is in flux and still developing.

On the early morning news there was some grumbling afoot. It looked like things were going to turn.

 

[DA SWO]

Military coup is underway.

Situation is in flux and still developing.

Guess we know why Russia sent troops in (a la Ass-crackistan)

 

[Crusader74]

Military coup is underway.

Situation is in flux and still developing.

Those crazy CIA SOG at it again

 

[Devildoc]

Ho-lee shit

Venezuela uprising turns violent after military armored vehicle plows into crowd of opposition supporters

 

[Brill]

To Free the Oppressed!

 

[Gordus]

Ho-lee shit

Venezuela uprising turns violent after military armored vehicle plows into crowd of opposition supporters

Yo what the hell !

 

[chickenrappa]

Just saw this on youtube, looks like they're rushing the airbase and gunfire is being exchanged.

 

[Polar Bear]

Trump will screw it up!

 

[DA SWO]

Trump will screw it up!

How, buy not sending troops?

 

[Gunz]

Maduro was ready to book to Havana and the Russians told him to stay put. This could get interesting. Let's see how far Putin is willing to go to back up what I assume was an order not a suggestion.

 

[Polar Bear]

How, buy not sending troops?

Name it, his policy is shit south of the border. He is an isolationist. I will say this for the 20th or so time I voted for him....he is a TARD. I may vote Democrat next time. But I have now hate the last two presidents. Both to stupid to do what is right.