What’s happening in Iran?

[TheSiatonist]

A plane engine catches fire, something causes the motor to come apart, all of those turbine blades go somewhere...between an engine tearing itself apart and a general explosion? Could be anything unless some trigger happy Iranian gunner got spooked.

I guess it's the latter. Now the investigation needs to get going. Iran won't hand over the black box to the Boeing/US.

Source: Canada PM says he won't rest until he gets answers about downed jet

From the article -- a case of journalists trying to stir shit up.

Trudeau was pressed by journalists about whether the United States should be held at least partially responsible for the tragedy, given that tensions in the region ignited after a U.S. drone attack killed a top Iranian general.

 

[DA SWO]

Iranians are quietly and quickly destroying the evidence.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Another view on the WPR but that it contravenes the Framers’ intent.



HAMMER: The War Powers Resolution Is, And Always Has Been, Unconstitutional

So are we going to start declaring war on people and go HAM?

 

[AWP]

What type of idiot shoots down a civilian airliner?

Anchors aweigh,
CAPT Will Rogers III

 

[BlackSmokeRisinG]

I remember from middle school social studies the President has the authority do deploy troops for 90 days in an emergency and anything more requires congress. If they make it any more stringent than that, more U.S. military will get killed, period. Of course the Dems don't care about that....

Bad Orange Man!! Why you no let Iranians attack us???

 

[RackMaster]

I guess it's the latter. Now the investigation needs to get going. Iran won't hand over the black box to the Boeing/US.

Source: Canada PM says he won't rest until he gets answers about downed jet

From the article -- a case of journalists trying to stir shit up.

Canadian media is nothing but assigning blame on Trump. They're ignoring everything that led to this situation.

 

[Brill]

So are we going to start declaring war on people and go HAM?

I think the Framers understood the impact of war and wanted to divide the power among two branches so we wouldn’t have endless wars. If we go to war, We should bear the burden not just those deployed.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Canadian media is nothing but assigning blame on Trump. They're ignoring everything that led to this situation.

FAA issued No Fly Order several hours before that thing took off...and then they were the first plane off the ground in Tehran and popped straight out of the sky by Iran ADA...yeah, totally the POTUS fault I guess.

 

[Kraut783]

What type of idiot shoots down a civilian airliner?

 

[Box]

Canadian media is nothing but assigning blame on Trump...

There are a lot of branches in the blame tree - but true to form I will only address the ones that meet my own predetermined bias in support of my blindly partisan (and wildly hypocritical) support of all things MAGA
For whatever it's worth - my education and study of conflict resolution has taught me that more often than not - assigning blame is counterproductive.; not that anyone cares about productivity in the context of the modern day political landscape.
BUT
Assigning blame is the quickest, easiest, and most certain method when attempting to avoid ANY responsibility for a conflict.
It also shows how disingenuous people are when the topic is "de-escalation"

"I just want to resolve this peacefully but this is all your fault you faulty doer of faulty faults"

The same hypocrites that virtue signal their tolerance, love of peace, and disapproval of aggression are usually the first ones to jump on the 'assign blame' train when something doesn't go their way. It is how politicians on BOTH sides of the aisle as well as the ones claiming to be "in the middle" do business. Not that my opinion is based on any facts - its just something I've noticed. It's also why President Trump is such a bad guy that one drone strike that killed an Iranian was enough to put a wrinkle and the space-time continuum, causing the Iranian to start hating us WAAAAAAAY back in the 1970's
...Trumps racist and bigoted failure as a President in 2019 is what caused the Iranians to take hostages in the 1970's - its also why the Iranians have been blowing shit up all over the world and hating on the USA since the late 70's

Thanks Trump - this is all your fault you Faulty MacFaulterton
Thanks a lot !!!

 

[Gunz]

What type of idiot shoots down a civilian airliner?

Anchors aweigh,
CAPT Will Rogers III

But he rescued the VN boat people, so that canceled the airline thing out.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Update:

Iran admits to 'unintentionally' shooting down plane

 

[AWP]

Iran James on Charlie World's couch.

"Man, that's crazy, puttin' my missile in a plane. What kind of person shoots down a civilian airliner? I didn't put no missile in a plane......yeah, I shot that plane down." Fuck yo' couch, Ukraine, fuck yo' couch.

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Seriously though, what type of half-assed C2 program are they running? Your radar (presumably) saw them fly towards you from the direction of Tehran...maybe sqwaking Mode 3 IFF, maybe not, so you smoked it? What are these guys, a Patriot battery?

Or this tells us how bad their C2 program is and we're the winners in this tragedy.

 

[GOTWA]

Update:

Iran admits to 'unintentionally' shooting down plane

Iran Military Eliminates Potential Engine Failure In Boeing 737.

Iran Military Rescues Boeing 737 Passengers from Potential Engine Failure.

 

[DA SWO]

Iran James on Charlie World's couch.

"Man, that's crazy, puttin' my missile in a plane. What kind of person shoots down a civilian airliner? I didn't put no missile in a plane......yeah, I shot that plane down." Fuck yo' couch, Ukraine, fuck yo' couch.

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Seriously though, what type of half-assed C2 program are they running? Your radar (presumably) saw them fly towards you from the direction of Tehran...maybe sqwaking Mode 3 IFF, maybe not, so you smoked it? What are these guys, a Patriot battery?

Or this tells us how bad their C2 program is and we're the winners in this tragedy.

They would have a transponder code and the were flying where ATC told them to go.

 

[Cookie_]

Now this is complicating things further.

U.S. Unsuccessfully Tried Killing a Second Iranian Military Official

The American military unsuccessfully tried to kill a senior Iranian military official in Yemen on the same day a drone strike killed Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani, Iran’s most powerful commander, according to American officials.

The disclosure of a second mission indicated that the Trump administration had plans for a broader campaign than was previously known, intended to cripple Iran’s ability to carry out proxy wars in other countries. After Iran’s retaliatory missile strikes on Iraqi bases that host American troops, both Washington and Tehran appear to have stepped back from escalating the conflict further, at least for now.

The unsuccessful airstrike in Yemen was aimed at Abdul Reza Shahlai, an official with Iran’s Quds Force, a potent military organization that General Suleimani had led. Mr. Shahlai was known as a main organizer of financing for Shiite militias in the region.

President Trump approved the strike against Mr. Shahlai in the same period that he authorized the strike against General Suleimani on Jan. 3, although it was unclear if the American attack in Yemen occurred at precisely the same time.

 

[Brill]

Update:

Iran admits to 'unintentionally' shooting down plane

CNN and MSNBC are still in disbelief.

 

[AWP]

They would have a transponder code and the were flying where ATC told them to go.

Exactly. They would have Mode 3, a flight plan, and been under ATC control. The fact the missile crew didn't understand any of this...wow. The operators should have known it was CivAir, but pushed the button anyway? Clowns.

 

[GOTWA]

Exactly. They would have Mode 3, a flight plan, and been under ATC control. The fact the missile crew didn't understand any of this...wow. The operators should have known it was CivAir, but pushed the button anyway? Clowns.

Something tells me there won't be an opportunity to retrain.

 

[GOTWA]

Opinion | Iran and Trump likely broke international law. And 176 innocents paid the price.

"One way, perhaps posing a moral rather than legal question, is to ask whether the 176 souls who perished on that plane would still be alive had the United States not sought to kill  Qassem  Soleimani."

Not sure if this belongs in the What's Wrong With the Left thread. For fucks sake, do they refuse to hold people accountable?