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Wow! I feel so used. Lol! Thank you Teufel! So what are us ATBN guys? Are we regular line guys or security guards?
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http://www.monterey.army.mil/DPTMS/at_definitions.html
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ANTITERRORISM: Defensive measures used to reduce the vulnerability of individuals and property to terrorist acts, to include limited response and containment by local military forces.
COMBATING TERRORISM: Actions, including antiterrorism (defensive measures taken to reduce vulnerability to terrorist acts) and counter-terrorism (offensive measures taken to prevent, deter, and respond to terrorism), taken to oppose terrorism throughout the entire threat spectrum.
COUNTER-TERRORISM: Offensive measures taken to prevent, deter, and respond to terrorism.
DETERRENCE: The prevention from action by fear of the consequences. Deterrence is a state of mind brought about by the existence of a credible threat of unacceptable counteraction.
FORCE PROTECTION PROGRAM: Security program designed to protect service members, civilian employees, family members, facilities, and equipment, in all locations and situations, accomplished through planned and integrated application of combating terrorism, physical security, operations security, personal protective services, and supported by intelligence, counterintelligence, and other security programs.
PHYSICAL SECURITY: That part of security concerned with physical measures designed to safeguard personnel; to prevent unauthorized access to equipment, installations, material and documents; and to safeguard them against espionage, sabotage, damage, and theft.
PROACTIVE MEASURES: In antiterrorism, measures taken in the preventative stage of antiterrorism designed to harden targets and detect actions BEFORE they occur.
TERRORISM: The calculated use of unlawful violence, or threat of unlawful violence, to inculcate fear. It is intended to coerce, or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological.
TERRORIST: An individual who uses violence, terror, and intimidation to achieve a result.
TERRORIST GROUPS: Any element, regardless of size or espoused cause, which repeatedly commits acts of violence or threatens violence in pursuit of its political, religious, or ideological objectives.
Definitions
ANTITERRORISM: Defensive measures used to reduce the vulnerability of individuals and property to terrorist acts, to include limited response and containment by local military forces.
COMBATING TERRORISM: Actions, including antiterrorism (defensive measures taken to reduce vulnerability to terrorist acts) and counter-terrorism (offensive measures taken to prevent, deter, and respond to terrorism), taken to oppose terrorism throughout the entire threat spectrum.
COUNTER-TERRORISM: Offensive measures taken to prevent, deter, and respond to terrorism.
DETERRENCE: The prevention from action by fear of the consequences. Deterrence is a state of mind brought about by the existence of a credible threat of unacceptable counteraction.
FORCE PROTECTION PROGRAM: Security program designed to protect service members, civilian employees, family members, facilities, and equipment, in all locations and situations, accomplished through planned and integrated application of combating terrorism, physical security, operations security, personal protective services, and supported by intelligence, counterintelligence, and other security programs.
PHYSICAL SECURITY: That part of security concerned with physical measures designed to safeguard personnel; to prevent unauthorized access to equipment, installations, material and documents; and to safeguard them against espionage, sabotage, damage, and theft.
PROACTIVE MEASURES: In antiterrorism, measures taken in the preventative stage of antiterrorism designed to harden targets and detect actions BEFORE they occur.
TERRORISM: The calculated use of unlawful violence, or threat of unlawful violence, to inculcate fear. It is intended to coerce, or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological.
TERRORIST: An individual who uses violence, terror, and intimidation to achieve a result.
TERRORIST GROUPS: Any element, regardless of size or espoused cause, which repeatedly commits acts of violence or threatens violence in pursuit of its political, religious, or ideological objectives.
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Thank you Jab! Nice chart! : D
There is no such thing as an AT guy in the Marine Corps. There were Marines assigned to an AT battalion. AT is not an MOS. There isn't a such thing as a regular line guy. There are infantrymen and other MOSes, all of which were represented in 4th MEB.
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I see. So a combined outfit of various classes and a different mission. So the structure of the unit has been gone over now. How about the mission? Was there ever a anti terrorism mission prior to the creation of the unit & if so, does a mission like that still exist with the ATBN being dissolved? Couldn't Marine Security Regiment of just been tasked with Anti terrorism duties?
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Dude, 4th MEB stood up in late 2004 and was deactivated in early 2006. This thread has lasted longer than 4th MEB did. I don't know what to tell you. It was somebody's "good idea" that lasted 18 months. The AT Bn lasted a bit longer but was really just an infantry battalion with some specialized training. I believe it turned into 1/9 or 2/9 in 2007.
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Oh my goodness! I came asking for information Teufel! If it bugs you then you don't have to reply. 4th MEB may of been dissolved, but ATBN still stock around until late 2007 with its companies & elements still overseas on duty. I would know since I was one of the last guys to return not including the guys from the Mitt teams. This tread is closed!
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Yeah, I love you to man... :.. ( cough...
I'm surprised Teufel even entertained your silly questions this long. Way to show your ass.
Have you lost your mind? You just took a dump on a decorated Marine officer and then closed it by presuming to do MY "job" on this website?
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O.k. Enough! I'm grateful Teufel explained the history & purpose of the organization. If someone doesn't want to go further into the subject matter, then just let me know. No harm meant.
So here's the deal with the temp ban:
I don't know what roninsthao85's deal is, but between this thread and the "old dogs" thread elsewhere we've kind of had enough. You wouldn't walk into a room full of Marines as a newly minted PFC and then proceed to act like this. You wouldn't walk into a man's home and act like this. (at least I would hope not) We're not going to tolerate some new guy spewing his ignorance and attitude. Maybe roninsthao85 has something to offer, maybe this is the "learning point" needed, but honestly his signal to noise ratio is through the roof.
Either learn how to interact with people or "get got." Your behavior over the last hour is inexcusable and if you don't understand the "why" behind my statement, then we wish you luck in your future endeavours. You came to us asking for help, but you expect us to tolerate your mouth? "Beggars can't be choosers"
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I don't know what roninsthao85's deal is, but between this thread and the "old dogs" thread elsewhere we've kind of had enough. You wouldn't walk into a room full of Marines as a newly minted PFC and then proceed to act like this. You wouldn't walk into a man's home and act like this. (at least I would hope not) We're not going to tolerate some new guy spewing his ignorance and attitude. Maybe roninsthao85 has something to offer, maybe this is the "learning point" needed, but honestly his signal to noise ratio is through the roof.
Either learn how to interact with people or "get got." Your behavior over the last hour is inexcusable and if you don't understand the "why" behind my statement, then we wish you luck in your future endeavours. You came to us asking for help, but you expect us to tolerate your mouth? "Beggars can't be choosers"
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Dude you used two syllable words talking to Marines. They are not going to understand. Just perm ban the TARD
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