Airlines, airplanes and other kerfuffles

Would a mission like this include flying outside of normal altitude levels? Just a thought.

Not in that area. Those routes have strict requirements for safety with civilian aircraft operating in very close proximity. An exception would be a big deal and not with those particular runways at DCA being active. As we unfortunately witnessed, there's little tolerance for deviation.
 
@Muppet the videos online coming out of Philly of the crash are mind boggling. People walking down the street, seeing the crash from their porch etc. I saw one that was filmed on a cell phone while the guy was in the drive thru of what looks like some type of fast food chicken place. Unbelievable.
 
Not in that area. Those routes have strict requirements for safety with civilian aircraft operating in very close proximity. An exception would be a big deal and not with those particular runways at DCA being active. As we unfortunately witnessed, there's little tolerance for deviation.
A planned deviation from published routes/ maps/ approach plates or whatever would involve a NOTAM, correct?
 
@Muppet the videos online coming out of Philly of the crash are mind boggling. People walking down the street, seeing the crash from their porch etc. I saw one that was filmed on a cell phone while the guy was in the drive thru of what looks like some type of fast food chicken place. Unbelievable.

Yeah, Asads chicken. They are banging!
 
I got this earlier:

"Note: my comment is based on my five years at HMX-1 from 95-00. Our facility is directly across the river from DCA

1) I'm curious if both pilots were on NODS. For training purposes we never flew both pilots on NODS at the same time inside the beltway. Just too many distractors.

2) We stayed well clear of DCAs flight patterns. The only time we even got close to their field was flying over the top when all the FW traffic was down low.

3) The NCR was a VERY controlled airspace; if you were AFU on the radio or procedures, the controllers would toss you without a second thought."
 
Can't remember where I saw it but I saw a comment about the 60 missing a second crew chief on it's left side. Would that be a standard?
When I've flown with ARNG, it's always been 3 crew (pilot, co-pilot, and crew chief), same with the 47. USAF, on the otherhand has 4 (an additonal crew chief). I think that's pretty typical. Maybe some units/mission requirements are different. 🤷
 
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Can't remember where I saw it but I saw a comment about the 60 missing a second crew chief on it's left side. Would that be a standard?

This is what I was told:

"1 crew chief is required when sling loading, off airport landings, NVG flying. 2 crew chiefs are only required when designated by the COCOM, usually in a combat environment. No crew chiefs required when flying airport to airport during day or night unaided. Local policies can always override these basic rules, requiring more crew members."

Whenever I was in the back of helo doing enroute care, civilian or military, we were always extra eyes unless we had a patient.
 
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