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Great fight the other night between Poirier & Geathje. Punch kick fest, the kind I like, lots of fist, not too much grappling.
 
So Dern was heavy. Sucks. All the people talking mess about it obviously are going: Oh shit she dominated, must have been the weight. Kind of sucks. Big fan, she lives in Phoenix most of the year.
 
Can I just say that the Lewis vs Negannou fight has to be one of the most boring and unentertaining fights I've ever seen next to the last one with CM Punk.

On the flipside I'm super happy to see DC get the HW title, it sucks that Miocic had to get KO'd but god damn DC deserves everything he gets at this point imo.
 
DC is now in the GOAT conversation. His losses to Jones are "No contests" and don't matter. He's a class act and is great for the sport. He will beat Lesnar all over the octagon and walk out a rich and happy man.
 
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DC is now in the GOAT conversation. His losses to Jones are "No contests" and don't matter. He's a class act and is great for the sport. He will beat Lesnar all over the octagon and walk out a rich and happy man.
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Agree completely, dude has one of the hardest work ethics in the sport and even when he found Jones tested positive he still wanted to go and fight him for a rematch regardless of the fact Jones was using.

Instantly became a fan of his when that happened.

 
Man, that dirty boxing right hand was clean. Great win for DC, and this sets up that superfight where Jones knocks him out again. Can't wait.

In all seriousness, DC did what UFC wanted Jones to do, combine the light and heavy belts. I think Joe Rogan said it on his podcast the other day, "Oh, I can't beat Jon? What did he want to do, that dream of his to get both belts? I'll just do that to spite him then."

Great win for DC and yea, he's gotta be in that conversation for GOAT. No question.
 
I think he can, when was the last time that Lesner even fought? 2 years ago or so? DC is just looking for that fat payday before he retires in 2019 and he deserves it at this point.

I dont think there will be another Jones fight though basing it off of this article, but that would be an even bigger payday than Lesner by far if he wanted to go that route.

Daniel Cormier sets hard date in 2019 for retirement from MMA
 
DC will be the favorite but at heavyweight anyone can be put to sleep. I still put Jones ahead of DC. Jones dominated him when he was clean and his unclean test after he knocked DC out seems fishy based on the amount they found in his system.
 
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DC will be the favorite but at heavyweight anyone can be put to sleep. I still put Jones ahead of DC. Jones dominated him when he was clean and his unclean test after he knocked DC out seems fishy based on the amount they found in his system.
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You’re correct that Jones beat DC in a 3 round decision. He then popped positive for cocaine after the fight. Positive PED test for the called off 2nd fight and he’s suspended. Third fight “No contest” because of PEDs.

At that level PEDs are a huge advantage and can make the deciding difference.

Somewhere in there he fled the scene of a car accident after hurting a pregnant women. And bunch of other car wrecks and other driving violations.

Jones is a super talent but he has self exempted himself from GOAT status at this point. He’s either the unluckiest person on earth or he’s showing a pattern of behavior.

This is just IMO and for the sake of conversation.
 
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Maybe I'm blind, or I've been in the depths of the Rugby world of late...but I totally had no idea about this fight. The DC call out of Brock was annoying. Guess I'm not into the Wrestlingization/Floydization of MMA right now.
 
Jones is s better fighter than DC, period. Clean, on trace amounts of tacos, both of them juiced to the gills, whatever. Gun to your head, if you had to bet your life on the outcome of a DC-Jones fight, no one takes DC.

DC is still going to be (and should be) rated/remembered higher than Bones. The Lesner fight is painfully stupid for DC to consider, but at this point a legacy with an asterisk can probably weather a side-show sort of fight to end it, ya know?
 
Even with the NC calls for the Jones losses, I still can’t say that DC is the true pound for pound king. Yes he’s the undisputed champ in two weight classes but.... any real fight fan knows a simple ruling does not equate to actual dominance.

Flip the script and consider Jones one loss- the DQ to Matt Hamill for the elbows. Do we really consider Hamill the “one man to beat Jon Jones?” No. We know it was a technicality. At HW the story may be different- DC can eat and lift and really work on throwing heat and that may be the difference with Jones. The fact remains Jones has dominated him twice in the ring and has won the head game.

I still love DC. I love a guy who no shit has lost everything- see his first child and fiancé- and just moves on like a man. He’s the better man than Jones without a doubt.

As far as the interaction with Bork Laser after the fight- anyone notice that 1. No one really broke them up or acted shocked. 2. Joe Rogan was laughing. BC and Lesnar are legit friends from the amateur wrestling world. I actually dig the WWE act- I like good promotion as it’s fun, it adds to the boring lead up to a fight. As long as the North Dakotan can pass a drug test this should be an entertaining fight. (Not good or competitive DC puts him to sleep in the second).
 
I think Rogan summed it up nicely in his MMA podcast with Schaubb, Jones is a literal freak of nature in the things he can do, he has the length, flexibility, and power to do whatever he wants to do with anyone in the octagon and as a DC fan I'm ok with him not beating Jones ever. The dude has a better legacy, work ethic, and pure drive to succeed than Jones.


I don't think Lesner can pass a drug test, in the words of Brendan Schaubb "What is this clean you're talking about". Dana might have to try and convince USADA to look the other way on this one.
 
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