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Some questionable calls in this card. Although I felt the scoring of the Cyborg Fight was fair, I just wanted to see Holly tear her apart so we could get rid of Cyborg and have like an actual decent Women's side of UFC. Guess this is it for Holly, what can we say though, she beat the unbeatable person and it jacked her up for the rest of her career (short that it was).
 
ThunderHorse said:
Some questionable calls in this card. Although I felt the scoring of the Cyborg Fight was fair, I just wanted to see Holly tear her apart so we could get rid of Cyborg and have like an actual decent Women's side of UFC. Guess this is it for Holly, what can we say though, she beat the unbeatable person and it jacked her up for the rest of her career (short that it was).
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Why is Cyborg not a decent women's fighter?
 
CDG said:
Why is Cyborg not a decent women's fighter?
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I stated previously Jon Jones shouldn't be in the UFC for his PEDs use. Cyborg definitely shouldn't have been contracted since she had popped before ever entering the UFC. This isn't an opinion of her technical skills.

And then looking at this from a marketing perspective, Cyborg doesn't look like a chick and Holly is pretty attractive. How does this fit the demographic they were attempting to reach?
 
ThunderHorse said:
I stated previously Jon Jones shouldn't be in the UFC for his PEDs use. Cyborg definitely shouldn't have been contracted since she had popped before ever entering the UFC. This isn't an opinion of her technical skills.

And then looking at this from a marketing perspective, Cyborg doesn't look like a chick and Holly is pretty attractive. How does this fit the demographic they were attempting to reach?
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Gotcha. I disagree completely with sports banning PEDs in the first place, so it doesn't bother me when they don't expel athletes for testing positive.

What demographic do you perceive them as trying to reach with women's MMA? If it was all about physical looks, Paige Van Zant would be on every card. Guys are already watching for the men's fights, and they have ring card girls for eye candy. The women who are into UFC are either hardcore fight fans that watch for the sport, or they watch for the men's physiques. I don't think any woman who is serious about fighting would change her mind because she thinks it will make her look like Cyborg.
 
CDG said:
Gotcha. I disagree completely with sports banning PEDs in the first place, so it doesn't bother me when they don't expel athletes for testing positive.

What demographic do you perceive them as trying to reach with women's MMA? If it was all about physical looks, Paige Van Zant would be on every card. Guys are already watching for the men's fights, and they have ring card girls for eye candy. The women who are into UFC are either hardcore fight fans that watch for the sport, or they watch for the men's physiques. I don't think any woman who is serious about fighting would change her mind because she thinks it will make her look like Cyborg.
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Not to derail this, but I'm curious as to why you're against sports banning PEDs?
 
SaintKP said:
Not to derail this, but I'm curious as to why you're against sports banning PEDs?
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People pay exorbitant amounts of money to watch/support their favorite sports/teams/athletes. Fans are paying to be entertained and to see feats that the vast majority of the population could never hope to accomplish. So if an athlete wants to use PEDs to improve performance, get through an injury, or extend a career for a few more years, then why not? Who cares? This country has the most asinine moral standards when it comes to certain things.
 
CDG said:
People pay exorbitant amounts of money to watch/support their favorite sports/teams/athletes. Fans are paying to be entertained and to see feats that the vast majority of the population could never hope to accomplish. So if an athlete wants to use PEDs to improve performance, get through an injury, or extend a career for a few more years, then why not? Who cares? This country has the most asinine moral standards when it comes to certain things.
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I definitely understand where you're coming from. I grew up watching Sosa and McGwire battle it out, when it turned out that they both had been using PEDs and altered bats did it take away some of the mystique? Yeah, but it didn't ruin my perception of them at all, as someone who is extremely competitive in sports I understand trying to take every possible advantage to win so I could empathize with them on the actions they took.

I feel like people become outraged by it is because there's a sense of idolatry involved in sports, and when it turns out that your favorite superstar turned out to be a cheater it's sort of like a punch in the stomach. Some people obviously handle it a lot better than other fans (A-Rod, Bonds, Romanowski, Tyson, etc.).
 
This is what I know, any time there's a trophy, someone is going to take PEDs, it doesn't even matter if it's for the local DIII rec league in soccer, someone is gonna do it. So that's why you should ban it in sport.

I seriously do think that the entire point of the women's divisions is to appeal to women. Not for the looks but for the novelty, and somehow unlike Boxing, women actually watch. And looks does matter, just like when us guys see in shape chicks that you'd want to shag in a different life. YOur girlfriend or sister will idolize that person when they watch the fights and get inspired to train. You see it all over sport.
 
amlove21 said:
I am a Stipe fan... and I am terrified of that Ngannou fight. That dude is nightmare fuel.
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I honestly think Stipe can win, he just needs to get faster and avoid unnecessary hits from those bricks Ngannou calls hands, not to mention he's more experienced than Ngannou and he has a bit of a chip on his shoulder because almost everyone is on the hype train for Ngannou right now.

Either way it's going to be a crazy fight and someone is getting KO'd first round or it's going all the way.
 
The baddest man on the planet and the only person to defend the heavyweight title 3 times in the history of the world is from Cleveland, Ohio.

Cheers, Stipe. Cheers, Ohio. They can never take that away. Great card.
 
amlove21 said:
The baddest man on the planet and the only person to defend the heavyweight title 3 times in the history of the world is from Cleveland, Ohio.

Cheers, Stipe. Cheers, Ohio. They can never take that away. Great card.
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One of Stipe’s trainers works on our PD, comes in saying Stipe broke this or that all the time. Sounds like Boston PD treated Stipe and his whole crew really good. It’s really cool to hear all the stories.
 
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