Back to basics for the Army....

[Etype]

WLC used to be PLDC back when I did it, BNCOC phase one was before you pinned E6, and phase two was within 2 years of pinning E6. ANCOC was supposed to be before E7.

PLDC
BNCOC 1&2
ANCOC 1&2
1SG Course
SGM Academy

At least during my time in. The whole warrior gayness, is exactly how you put it. That all said, I think even our support people should be able to build a fighting position and defend it. As I said before, it is the Army...

Thanks for the assist. My PLDC and BNCOC were the same course, I didn't get the full experience.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

Thanks for the assist. My PLDC and BNCOC were the same course, I didn't get the full experience.

I remember the first time I found out that the Q course counted as BNCOC, thinking to myself "that's pretty awesome they don't have to deal with that gayness" because that is exactly what it was...gay as hell.

 

[Etype]

I remember the first time I found out that the Q course counted as BNCOC, thinking to myself "that's pretty awesome they don't have to deal with that gayness" because that is exactly what it was...gay as hell.

There is an NCOPD course that we have to do at Camp Mackall, not sure what it's called now. It's accredited by USASMA and it covers both courses.

We do all the mandatory classes, and a lot of PT. It's a bit of a smokefest, but I thought it was a lot of fun. The instructors do all of the PT with you, you get plenty of sleep, 3 hot meals a day, and there are fun competitive events between the different squads.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

There is an NCOPD course that we have to do at Camp Mackall, not sure what it's called now. It's accredited by USASMA and it covers both courses.

We do all the mandatory classes, and a lot of PT. It's a bit of a smokefest, but I thought it was a lot of fun. The instructors do all of the PT with you, you get plenty of sleep, 3 hot meals a day, and there are fun competitive events between the different squads.

PLDC & BNCOC 1, was all dress right dress, Army gayness, everything regulation, alot of this is how you prep a class, counsel a soldier, look pretty, blah, blah, blah. PT was geared towards the average support guy passing, and the D&C just sucked. I didn't have any fun at all. Basically learning all the stuff I already knew while being treated like a PVT again.

 

[SpongeBob*24]

Etype when did you go thru the Q-Course?

Diamondback where did you go to PLDC at?

 

[CDG]

Hasty is just a shallow grave. A proper fighting position is shoulder deep, enough room for two people to stand in the ports or both duck under the cover.

Tracking brother. Our instructors referred to the first graphic you posted as a "Defensive Fighting Position". We didn't mess with installing wood, or other overhead cover. We dug it to the specs you mentioned, but didn't add anything else.

 

[Gunz]

"Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat. It was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort..."

 

[Devildoc]

Desert Storm was where we did the real ones. Digging grenade sumps in sand is a bitch.

Yes it is. It's like digging a hole at the beach for your kids that just keeps filling itself in.

 

[Bypass]

WTF am I going to do with a foxhole? Qualify at BRM or bury myself in it. What idiot can't dig a hole if needed? Show me a picture one time and I have it down. I am glad I don't have to deal with this silliness anymore. I never even thought once of digging a hole while deployed except for the dog I buried because he was my buddy.

Edit: The dog died first and I am going to go play world of warcraft now.

 

[Gunz]

Threads devolve. It's science.

 

[DocIllinois]

Threads devolve. It's science.

I'll retrack it: Training to live with housing units, Pizza Huts, WiFi, and rent-a-guards and calling yourself a soldier = no.

Training to live on (in) the land and out of a ruck, eating what you have or what's on a field resupply, forgetting about the boy who just Left Swiped you on Tinder, and protecting your own force = yes.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

Etype when did you go thru the Q-Course?

Diamondback where did you go to PLDC at?

FT Hoodlum.

 

[pardus]

WTF am I going to do with a foxhole? Qualify at BRM or bury myself in it. What idiot can't dig a hole if needed? Show me a picture one time and I have it down. I am glad I don't have to deal with this silliness anymore. I never even thought once of digging a hole while deployed except for the dog I buried because he was my buddy.

Edit: The dog died first and I am going to go play world of warcraft now.

Maybe one day if you are deployed to a major war zone where your enemy is a professional you will understand the relevance of a prepared defensive position.

 

[Etype]

Etype when did you go thru the Q-Course?

Diamondback where did you go to PLDC at?

2008

 

[Etype]

Maybe one day if you are deployed to a major war zone where your enemy is a professional you will understand the relevance of a prepared defensive position.

Nah, we would just keep moving forward. Nothing stops the American Winning Machine.

 

[DocIllinois]

Nah, we would just keep moving forward. Nothing stops the American Winning Machine.

I think NASCAR groupies would show you their boobs. Yee haw.

 

[Bypass]

Maybe one day if you are deployed to a major war zone where your enemy is a professional you will understand the relevance of a prepared defensive position.

When is the last time we fought a professional soldier? Not going to happen though my third time re-enlisting 14 years ago will be my last.

Edit" Maybe I will pick up a gun if we are invaded but I still doubt I will dig a foxhole.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

....

 

[policemedic]

Edit" Maybe I will pick up a gun if we are invaded but I still doubt I will dig a foxhole.

Maybe? OK.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

Maybe? OK.

He won't.

You know why.