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Mister_Geek

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So after about five years in self study on and off for IT i have finally started taking college classes.

Ruby, Python, JavaScript, Java, c++, and HTML and CSS are languages I have become quite fluent in.

CCNA almost in hand, Security+ almost in hand, Server+ Soon in hand. Next few quarters i will have CEH, CISSP, MCSE, CCNA Security, and Linux+ After i graduate going for CWU ITAM Network Administrator emphasis.

If you have no idea what amy of this is, no worries because most outside of IT have no clue anyway.

I am interested in the Army mainly for their Cyber Commamds. Don't care much for navy since they still use Windows 95 on their nuclear missile subs and aircraft carriers and and air force just doesn't seem that great. Too specialized.

So i plan for the army because of 25N. And 255N for my career goal.

I know the army uses mostly xp but at least it is more current than 95. And I lile how the army has a lot of Linux systems.
 
Everything but the OSs are IT certifications.

Cyber Security, and Computer Networking are the emphasis of my schooling with classes that fortify stuff i was self taught.

Linux is an operating system brand kind of thing, they are UNIX operating systems that are open source.

Windows 95 is a vintage OS that was used and distributed in 1995 Windows XP was 2001 on release. As of last year Microsoft killed XP support, and in 1999 they killed support for 95. They are ancient and dead operating systems.

One of the attractions to the army is the heavy linux emphasis in their systems from missile guidance systems to artillery radar and even the BLUE FORCE Tracker is Linux. Of course they are enclosed on an Intranet and the BF3?

In english an Intranet is a wide area network that is enclosed privately While the internet is a wide area network that is public.
 
To clarify as requested in PM

CWU ITAM is Central Washington University Information Technology and Administrative Management. I am planning to go for Network Administration focus. Or Cyber Defense not 100% sure on that just yet.

I'll figure that out when i transfer. 25N is an Army Network Administrator low end comparitively to the 255N who is an Army Network Engineer.

and i know about operating systems the military uses because of photographs of sailors and soldiers by their computers and a tour i had of an aircraft carrier, missile frigate, and missile submarine. Every computer left on had windows 95.

NAS Whidbey Island also had windows 95 on a laptop someone was using at the cafeteria thing they have. He was quote vocal of his hate for the navy and dead systems.

Clarification as requested by PM #2
1. I really don't care for software secrets or any of that junk, I just don't care that much to work on legacy systems. After military service to me, it would just hinder me being stuck on windows NT and 95 or worse XENIX like was just pointed out on PM.

2. College programs for introduction to C++, even javascript can be used to program a radar systems OS. All it is is a hardcore basic OS that works as a driver for the computer system to translate with a graphical interface what is appearing on a device sending RADAR out. The only time you get into any actual sophistication is the device itself, not the software to run it. And quite frankly unless it is directly related to my job, I honestly don't care that much what you use for RADAR/SONAR. Although not surprised at all Linux 1.3 is the most common, despite 3.x being around now.

3. I know it is a Cyber Security Nightmare, legacy systems will never have the security capabilities of Linux 3.X or windows 7+ or Server 2012+. It is virtually impossible to run them secured on their own accord without heavy, HEAVY modified programs installed with them, which, on that note, have to be primitive at the same time.

4. I am not bashing any services, I am just simply saying I am really not that interested on working on legacy or ancient systems. If I knew for a fact I was going to get to work on systems with atleast XP or Linux 2.X like most army systems use, I wouldn't mind the Navy. Just as far as IT goes, the Army is the most modernized. Even JAVALIN uses Linux 3.X for its missiles.
 
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There are plenty of people on this site who understood every word of that. I'm one of them.
And I'm going to jump out of my lane for a second to say that if what worries you most about serving this country is a legacy system, don't join. There are plenty of government agencies who will work you into a frazzled mess with systems you haven't even heard of yet. Go work for them. But stay out of the way of those of us who cherish every moment of doing what we can to keep our men and women coming home in one piece even if it means working on a system we haven't used at home in a decade. Rant over.

Welcome and good luck.
 
Welcome.

But, slow down your self aggrandizing megalomaniacal awesome computer geek for a bit, there are a lot of people on this board who have as much, no, more experience than you actually running the systems you found on the internets, and if they were so inclined, might actually school you in how wrong you are overall in regard to what's actually out there.

Slow your roll, read and get used to the personalities here.... or you will find yourself a pariah due to your own awesomeness.
 
First, let me welcome you...

Second, I have 20+ years in IT, own an IT company, helped the Army to get 3 Guiness world records by designing the messaging and data layers of the America's Army Game...and oh, yeah, redesigned, procured and implemented the unclassified and classified SOF networks currently used by all American SOF units in Afghanistan.

So go ahead and tell me all about your l33tn3$$.

Pump your brakes and let's see if you can survive this board before you find yourself going down in Uber Flames. You're not off to a good start.

Oh, and I'm still not the most experienced here...
 
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even if it means working on a system we haven't used at home in a decade. Rant over.

Welcome and good luck.

It wont let me quote compforce.

I think you gentleman have the wrong idea, accomplishments are accomplishments, just the issue with using legacy software, is the fact on an IT Security standpoint, the entire network is more fragile than some would imagine.

Windows NT, XP, 98, 95, and lower operating systems are fossils for a reason. On top of the fact you're being forced to use servers 2, even 3 times the size of what you actually need to run your intranet or systems (heavily inefficient, and excessive expense). They do not have security features inherent to them on a level to combat cyber attacks. You have to rely heavily on constant monitoring of active processes on your network and heavily rely on software that has to be modified at the source code to even be compatible with your system.

Compforce, please do not elaborate on what I am about to say after this point, because I do not need details or specifics of your intranet you made for SOF in the ME. But per radio theory and network theory, you would have to build it on a UHF platform, or else you would never be capable of supporting video, nor voice communication. Nor would it be possible to connect to any sattelites or aircraft in the area.

The issue with a legacy system, is there are only 15 bands and 40,000 frequencies a UHF system would be capable of connecting to. Which leaves that kind of a network ridiculously vulnerable. You only need someone to look for the devices running legacy systems, as apposed to the actual frequency bands. Once the operating systems are identified, it wouldn't be hard to determine the bandwidth of a network it is connected on.

So if even just one soldier using your network is using a windows xp or lower operating system on any device connected to your network; you have a serious security threat to your network. US Coast Guard learned this the hard way, after their recent cyber attack.

On an IT Security Level, you cannot secure a legacy system beyond their source capacity. And the source code cannot be modified without breaking the operating system so there really is no possible way to truly fix this.

The US Air Force used the mistake of having Windows 98 as the Operating System running their predator drones when they were hacked into and flown into a Pakistan Air Base. You don't have to attack the network to locate the devices, you only need to identify and attack the operating system itself.

Windows XP has no inherent user controls to speak of, NT, 98, and older systems do not either. Legacy systems are great to work on for general experience, but at the security levels it is not possible to have a secured network with any legacy software installed.

Even having dial-up AOL 7.0 or older still installed on a computer, even if never used is a gateway right into your hard drive.

With any user being able to modify and change XP at will, as well as any other older system, I can only imagine the nightmare some navy IT people have in correcting onboard systems when crewmen try to download music from their ipod or something, when they have complete unrestricted control through the operating systems command line. And there is no possible way to block this ability in anything older than XP, but even in XP you can run as an administrator unless the user is on a childs level user account.

Personally I'd love to run enterprise sized networks, etc. but it really comes down to the security side of the house. The only gripe I would ever have, is the security. Windows 98 and younger do not even have download or processes notifications, so there is no possible way for even a user on a computer in front of them can even tell if something is being downloaded, nor uploaded without a third party software telling them. Which can be tricked as just a regular operating system process.
 
Mods, I humbly request that we keep this an Intro thread. Thanks. Is there a way to parse this thread? It is important feedback.
 
@Mister_Geek

Are you in the military? NO
Do you have access to the current military systems? NO
Are you trying to bolster your self-worth by acting the expert? YES

You are pushing the envelope of our patience and tolerance of your attitude.
DIAL IT BACK. This is not a request. STFU and read, learn. You are wandering way out of your lane. Be an expert on C-Net or wingeek... but dial it down here.
 
@Mister_Geek

Are you in the military? NO
Do you have access to the current military systems? NO
Are you trying to bolster your self-worth by acting the expert? YES

You are pushing the envelope of our patience and tolerance of your attitude.
DIAL IT BACK. This is not a request. STFU and read, learn. You are wandering way out of your lane. Be an expert on C-Net or wingeek... but dial it down here.

Respectfully I am really not bolstering anything, simply explaining myself and nothing more. Just some found it offensive I would go for the Army for the fewer legacy systems over another branch. Allen Johnson, the college student who brought down a Predator Drone in Pakistan, published his research paper on how he did it and gave it to the pakistan military, and the single outline was broadcasting a UHF, "pinged" the predator drone, and opened communication with its computer.

If it is offensive to people to point out a serious flaw, I apologize. It was not meant to be offensive.
 
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