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Gamers are more toxic than a McDonald's hamburger, but more satisfying to watch than just about anything on earth. In game chat is always hilarious, I don't care what game we're talking about. More salt than Carthage.
Countless times I have seen in chat someone asking sarcastically why we gave them our tank, or helicopter. Or someone is in a support vehicle using the gun to slam at the other team and an idiot drives it to their dooms with nothing achieved and the other team recovers from that former beating to destroy us even more...and then the chat comes alive with flying insults.
 
I haven't played D4 since it came out. That said, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on hatred once you get some reps in. It just looks so good and the changes they've made to the classes seem really solid.

I only have about...an hour(?) in it so far, all of it in the new campaign and up to a level 15 or so. The skill tree is bonkers now, some of the sub-skills or enhancements won't unlock until you reach a certain level and there are more of them. The skills like a core or basic or whatever can soak up to 15 points and the cap is now 70 points. I'll chip away at the campaign until it is finished before going back into the main game.

The warlock is unsurprisingly looking strong, but a lot of builds are probably nuts right now.
 
Countless times I have seen in chat someone asking sarcastically why we gave them our tank, or helicopter. Or someone is in a support vehicle using the gun to slam at the other team and an idiot drives it to their dooms with nothing achieved and the other team recovers from that former beating to destroy us even more...and then the chat comes alive with flying insults.

In game stuff, IRL stuff, politics, history, whatever...all of it wrong. Random racism or misogyny, personal insults, right fighters trying to "fix" the chat...Some people forget this is a game and treat it like their soul is being attacked.
 
In game stuff, IRL stuff, politics, history, whatever...all of it wrong. Random racism or misogyny, personal insults, right fighters trying to "fix" the chat...Some people forget this is a game and treat it like their soul is being attacked.
That's social media, where nearly everyone is so easily offended or mad because people think different from them. The chat's I see are people mad at each other because they are playing differently than them and got big mad.

I had a guy take it too personally because I baited him in my tank, his lame MO was to take an unarmored vehicle, put on mines, and ram it into for a kill. I watched him do it a few times so the team stopped using the tank and the IFV. So as an engineer, I put a few mines out in front and made it look like I was an easy kill in the tank I was in and pretending to tank snipe...not. Rage in the game chat afterwards, lol. The non toxic gamers will compliment a good kill, not this guy. He was insulting my entire family's DNA chain. His death was very glorious to watch with a smile though. man to have seen the look on his face afterwards, haha.
 
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Warlock is clunky. Static blizzard Sorc is a beast. I might chip away at a Rogue this week. I think Druid has a new build or two since the rework.
 
With a warlock and sorcerer to 70, now a rogue to 25 or so...they are squishy. I thought it was just the warlock and while the sorc and rogue aren't known to be tanks, they are really soft now. I love the new skill tree, but hate that any effects are tied to specific skills unlike the old system. I need to work with the cube more, but I'm currently not a fan.

The new campaign was good but too long or at least had some meaningless stuff in there. My journey up the mountain and in the scribe world...why?

Thew new loot system and target farming aspects...swing and a miss for me. I strongly dislike these "features."

A good expansion but with some questionable game changes. Bring back target farming!
 
My last thoughts on D4 and a bit long...

I have my three characters above to T2/T3 and started a cataclysm druid which is about a 20 now. All 4 are squishy so I'm either choosing some weak builds or they nerfed damage resistance. Builds seem to rely more on DoT effects than before so you almost always chase that on your weapons.

The loot filter is great once you figure it out, but that isn't too hard. What you don't notice is even the loot is of differing quality. Take a legend/ yellow for example. Some loot will have 4 stats and some will have 3. You might see a great piece but it is missing an entire stat which is okay for leveling but not something you want to invest mats in building up.

Very few builds are new. A few are modifications. Some do not use an ultimate. Unlike OP spiritborn and paladin when released, the warlock is a bit underwhelming to me, even when compared to basic classes like a sorcerer, druid, barb, etc. Your 3 S Tier builds are a sorc, rogue (death trap again...), and a whirlwind barb (again).

Aspects and mats...did Blizz miss these. Being unable to target farm aspects and instead relying on drops or obol gambling is painful, especially at lower tiers because the drop rates are so low. I think I was in T1 on 2 of my characters before I saw my first offensive aspect. The aspect also turned out to be useless for my build. Now you're caught where you can't progress without aspects on your build, but the drop rate at lower tiers is trash. Two ways of gambling for aspects is to upgrade your legendaries/ yellow at the cube or through the vendor and obols. The problem is mats for both are also slow in dropping at lower tiers, so I've spent more time at T1/ T2 trying to get my build going than I ever did leveling.

This makes the game grindy, way, way more grindy than before. Chasing war table bounties breaks it up a bit, but you need those bounties to open some great traits towards loot. Again...that grind.

Blizz needs to buff aspect drops and the cube materials. The average guy playing 30-60 minutes after work will quickly tire of the grind with a slow trickling payoff. You can tolerate a squishy build if you know you'll have the mats or aspects to upgrade. Only the functionally retarded like myself will stick around and spend hours playing at range in the hopes of getting a good drop, which is only 1 out of 10-12 necessary pieces. Boss farming is kind of the same but you need keys to open their chests and the guys have a low drop rate.

Good luck with the grind.
 
My last thoughts on D4 and a bit long...

I have my three characters above to T2/T3 and started a cataclysm druid which is about a 20 now. All 4 are squishy so I'm either choosing some weak builds or they nerfed damage resistance. Builds seem to rely more on DoT effects than before so you almost always chase that on your weapons.

The loot filter is great once you figure it out, but that isn't too hard. What you don't notice is even the loot is of differing quality. Take a legend/ yellow for example. Some loot will have 4 stats and some will have 3. You might see a great piece but it is missing an entire stat which is okay for leveling but not something you want to invest mats in building up.

Very few builds are new. A few are modifications. Some do not use an ultimate. Unlike OP spiritborn and paladin when released, the warlock is a bit underwhelming to me, even when compared to basic classes like a sorcerer, druid, barb, etc. Your 3 S Tier builds are a sorc, rogue (death trap again...), and a whirlwind barb (again).

Aspects and mats...did Blizz miss these. Being unable to target farm aspects and instead relying on drops or obol gambling is painful, especially at lower tiers because the drop rates are so low. I think I was in T1 on 2 of my characters before I saw my first offensive aspect. The aspect also turned out to be useless for my build. Now you're caught where you can't progress without aspects on your build, but the drop rate at lower tiers is trash. Two ways of gambling for aspects is to upgrade your legendaries/ yellow at the cube or through the vendor and obols. The problem is mats for both are also slow in dropping at lower tiers, so I've spent more time at T1/ T2 trying to get my build going than I ever did leveling.

This makes the game grindy, way, way more grindy than before. Chasing war table bounties breaks it up a bit, but you need those bounties to open some great traits towards loot. Again...that grind.

Blizz needs to buff aspect drops and the cube materials. The average guy playing 30-60 minutes after work will quickly tire of the grind with a slow trickling payoff. You can tolerate a squishy build if you know you'll have the mats or aspects to upgrade. Only the functionally retarded like myself will stick around and spend hours playing at range in the hopes of getting a good drop, which is only 1 out of 10-12 necessary pieces. Boss farming is kind of the same but you need keys to open their chests and the guys have a low drop rate.

Good luck with the grind.


Have you played Last Epoch or POE2? The lack of WASD movement is so rough for me in D4 and I've found myself so bored leveling up the new characters just running around doing nonsense.
 
Have you played Last Epoch or POE2? The lack of WASD movement is so rough for me in D4 and I've found myself so bored leveling up the new characters just running around doing nonsense.

I've played both but with a 5 YO computer they drag a bit. I was building a new one this year until the AI bros sent component prices to the stratosphere. I prefer LE over POE2 minus LE's save points. It's been a bit, but doesn't LE send you back to a town/ spawn point but POE2 keeps you in the map? I could be mistaken on that, I haven't touched them in about a year or so. Anyway, both are good games.
 
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