Figured instead of kicking a dead horse in the political thread's, maybe we could discuss immigration reform at least what we think it should be moving forward. Not asking for the standard Republican/Democrat response. But personal opinion and thoughts. I'm going to spell out my opinions and thoughts, but I'm not exclusively tied to them. So I'd like to read everyones opinion and how they come to them.
Leave the Hillary said, Trump said bullshit out of it. Both of them can jump off a bridge for all I care.
My thoughts:
Border security needs to happen, not a wall (maybe in some areas) but true security. Put the assets and manpower on the border and lock it down. What should that mean, we should be grabing 85-90% of illegal border crossings at the actaul border.
Legally immigrating or people seaking a work visa to our country should be bringing something to the table. Skilled labor to Scientists and Doctors. You don't just get to come here because it sucks at home, you need to bring something to the table.
Criminals, anyone here illegally who has committed a felony crime is immediately deported and barred from future entry. You commit a felony crime you are out for good.
Undocumented or illegals who are not felons, should be given a pathway to legal status. Not an automatic citizenship, but a way to get a visa or residency, so that they can work towards citizenship like everyone else. They need to be afforded an opportunity to get right, kinda a one chance to get it right. Once afforded that opportunity, if they fail to maintain legal status, they are deported with a 3 year ban for first offence, 5 year ban for second, and lifetime ban for the third. If they get caught here illegally while on ban, mandatory 18 months in jail, and lifetime ban. Essentially make it easier to be here legally, but severely punish those who decide to not maintain legal status.
Migrant workers, specifically agricultural workers. We need a databasewhere these people can register quickly and without significant red tape involved. Simply have a Farmer accountability system, where each worker and worker family member can be registered to each farm. When the migrate during seasons, allow a 30 day window to register at the next farm, if they're going home just tag them as inactive, if they fail to register at the next farm, or go inactive the right way, they get a warrant for deportation and 12 month ban from the program. If a farmer fails to comply, he gets a 12 month ban from use if migrant work force. Just make it easier for the farmers and the worker's, that way things can be tracked without issue. When people fuck up they get a penalty.
Medical benefits, simply put we require an immigrant to carry automotive insurance to drive a car here, they should be required to maintain health insurance to have a visa or residency. They fail to maintain it or lap, they get a 30 day deportation notice. Get insurance or go home. Have a special program for migrant workers, that's dually cost shared between the farmer and the migrant worker. Something that is inexpensive, but allows for emergency and general health care. No preexisting conditions or major medical care, outside of work related injuries and illness, etc.
Anchor-baby, any child born here should have the right to apply for citizenship at the age of 18. However, until the 18th birthday, or a naturalized parent (legal guardian) the child remains with the family. Essentially, allow the child to remain, go to school receive benefits as long as the child is with the family here or a legal responsible gurdian. If the family heads home, the child goes as well, unless legal guardianship is established. Once the child is an adult, the child chooses citizenship.
Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, you get what you pay in. If you choose to pay in as an immigrant, you cannot draw benefits until naturalized as a citizen. Migrant workers would be excluded from paying in as well as from receiving benefits.
Education for minor's, standard public education for 18 and under, with a special child education tax levied on immigrants and migrant workers. They can go to school, but the family needs to contribute to the educational costs.
Higher education, no government grants or programs for student visas, immigrants, or migrant workers. Either they pay out of pocket or seek private scholarships and grants. Excluding special government program's for individuals who commit to 10 years of specific service from educational training. Example, special grant to become a medical doctor, requires 10 years of service in that field to the American people. Not free service or government service, but a grantee they will use their new knowledge or skills to benefit the country before returning to their own.
Immigration from conflict zones, if they are from a country we are directly in conflict with. They are denied until significant reason is given (heavily vetted, worked with us, proven trust, etc) otherwise not until 5 years of post conflict. Conflict zones (i.e. Syrian refugees) not without significant reason given (extreme humanitarian reasons, asylum, etc). Otherwise heavily intensive vetting, restrictive and temporary immigration, with supervision the equivalent of standard probation used in our justice system. Know where they are, what they are doing, drug test, etc. Give people a chance, but not blindly. The firstand foremost importance should be the safety of the American people, over the immigration from war torn countries.
Just my thoughts and opinions, feel free to state your own and pick mine apart.
Leave the Hillary said, Trump said bullshit out of it. Both of them can jump off a bridge for all I care.
My thoughts:
Border security needs to happen, not a wall (maybe in some areas) but true security. Put the assets and manpower on the border and lock it down. What should that mean, we should be grabing 85-90% of illegal border crossings at the actaul border.
Legally immigrating or people seaking a work visa to our country should be bringing something to the table. Skilled labor to Scientists and Doctors. You don't just get to come here because it sucks at home, you need to bring something to the table.
Criminals, anyone here illegally who has committed a felony crime is immediately deported and barred from future entry. You commit a felony crime you are out for good.
Undocumented or illegals who are not felons, should be given a pathway to legal status. Not an automatic citizenship, but a way to get a visa or residency, so that they can work towards citizenship like everyone else. They need to be afforded an opportunity to get right, kinda a one chance to get it right. Once afforded that opportunity, if they fail to maintain legal status, they are deported with a 3 year ban for first offence, 5 year ban for second, and lifetime ban for the third. If they get caught here illegally while on ban, mandatory 18 months in jail, and lifetime ban. Essentially make it easier to be here legally, but severely punish those who decide to not maintain legal status.
Migrant workers, specifically agricultural workers. We need a databasewhere these people can register quickly and without significant red tape involved. Simply have a Farmer accountability system, where each worker and worker family member can be registered to each farm. When the migrate during seasons, allow a 30 day window to register at the next farm, if they're going home just tag them as inactive, if they fail to register at the next farm, or go inactive the right way, they get a warrant for deportation and 12 month ban from the program. If a farmer fails to comply, he gets a 12 month ban from use if migrant work force. Just make it easier for the farmers and the worker's, that way things can be tracked without issue. When people fuck up they get a penalty.
Medical benefits, simply put we require an immigrant to carry automotive insurance to drive a car here, they should be required to maintain health insurance to have a visa or residency. They fail to maintain it or lap, they get a 30 day deportation notice. Get insurance or go home. Have a special program for migrant workers, that's dually cost shared between the farmer and the migrant worker. Something that is inexpensive, but allows for emergency and general health care. No preexisting conditions or major medical care, outside of work related injuries and illness, etc.
Anchor-baby, any child born here should have the right to apply for citizenship at the age of 18. However, until the 18th birthday, or a naturalized parent (legal guardian) the child remains with the family. Essentially, allow the child to remain, go to school receive benefits as long as the child is with the family here or a legal responsible gurdian. If the family heads home, the child goes as well, unless legal guardianship is established. Once the child is an adult, the child chooses citizenship.
Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, you get what you pay in. If you choose to pay in as an immigrant, you cannot draw benefits until naturalized as a citizen. Migrant workers would be excluded from paying in as well as from receiving benefits.
Education for minor's, standard public education for 18 and under, with a special child education tax levied on immigrants and migrant workers. They can go to school, but the family needs to contribute to the educational costs.
Higher education, no government grants or programs for student visas, immigrants, or migrant workers. Either they pay out of pocket or seek private scholarships and grants. Excluding special government program's for individuals who commit to 10 years of specific service from educational training. Example, special grant to become a medical doctor, requires 10 years of service in that field to the American people. Not free service or government service, but a grantee they will use their new knowledge or skills to benefit the country before returning to their own.
Immigration from conflict zones, if they are from a country we are directly in conflict with. They are denied until significant reason is given (heavily vetted, worked with us, proven trust, etc) otherwise not until 5 years of post conflict. Conflict zones (i.e. Syrian refugees) not without significant reason given (extreme humanitarian reasons, asylum, etc). Otherwise heavily intensive vetting, restrictive and temporary immigration, with supervision the equivalent of standard probation used in our justice system. Know where they are, what they are doing, drug test, etc. Give people a chance, but not blindly. The firstand foremost importance should be the safety of the American people, over the immigration from war torn countries.
Just my thoughts and opinions, feel free to state your own and pick mine apart.