Israel and Iran

You know who else was nominated for the Nobel Prize?

Hitler. *

Sorry, just keeping up with with the “Trump is literally Hitler” hyperventilating.





*true story

Basically anyone can be nominated, but not necessarily voted upon. If nothing else nominating Trump is a legit move in this case AND a solid troll.
 
YMMV with this story.

DIA report says strike failed to destroy Fordow

Now, I imagine BDA is still ongoing to determine just how much damage was done. It's very possible Fordow is deeper/more fortified that previously though, so there may or may not be truth to that.

What does seem pretty likely is this part:

The report also found that much of Iran’s stockpile of highly enriched uranium that could be put to use for a possible nuclear weapon was moved before the strikes and may have been moved to other secret nuclear sites maintained by Iran.

IMO, the nuclear material is really what matters at this point.
Nukes are increasingly proving themselves to be a requirement if you want national sovereignty in the 21st century. You either have them, or have buddies who've got them and agree to protect you.
If our attack creates national unity in Iran (as sanctions/other attacks have) we may see the Ayatollah officially reverse the Fatwa against the nuke program. I could see Iran speed-running a low yield nuke/dirty bomb as a way to "protect" themselves, if they don't Get some from the Russians/China.
 
YMMV with this story.

DIA report says strike failed to destroy Fordow

Now, I imagine BDA is still ongoing to determine just how much damage was done. It's very possible Fordow is deeper/more fortified that previously though, so there may or may not be truth to that.

What does seem pretty likely is this part:



IMO, the nuclear material is really what matters at this point.
Nukes are increasingly proving themselves to be a requirement if you want national sovereignty in the 21st century. You either have them, or have buddies who've got them and agree to protect you.
If our attack creates national unity in Iran (as sanctions/other attacks have) we may see the Ayatollah officially reverse the Fatwa against the nuke program. I could see Iran speed-running a low yield nuke/dirty bomb as a way to "protect" themselves, if they don't Get some from the Russians/China.
I'm interested to know where this report is, are they writing an article based on congressional testimony? If they have the report they should cite it and publish it so we can read it ourselves. Otherwise eff off.
 
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YMMV with this story.

DIA report says strike failed to destroy Fordow

Now, I imagine BDA is still ongoing to determine just how much damage was done. It's very possible Fordow is deeper/more fortified that previously though, so there may or may not be truth to that.

What does seem pretty likely is this part:



IMO, the nuclear material is really what matters at this point.
Nukes are increasingly proving themselves to be a requirement if you want national sovereignty in the 21st century. You either have them, or have buddies who've got them and agree to protect you.
If our attack creates national unity in Iran (as sanctions/other attacks have) we may see the Ayatollah officially reverse the Fatwa against the nuke program. I could see Iran speed-running a low yield nuke/dirty bomb as a way to "protect" themselves, if they don't Get some from the Russians/China.

This is a news outlet that’s extremely anti-Trump. They are basing their report on leaked information from a classified DIA assessment. The information was initially leaked to CBS, which leads me to believe that the person or persons leaking it are probably Trump-detractors and could’ve embellished or omitted content to suit their agenda.

However, Trump’s mouth has been his worst enemy and to spout off prematurely that the facility was “completely and totally obliterated” and Iran’s nuclear weapons program has been wiped out of existence, could come back to haunt him.
 
This is a news outlet that’s extremely anti-Trump. They are basing their report on leaked information from a classified DIA assessment. The information was initially leaked to CBS, which leads me to believe that the person or persons leaking it are probably Trump-detractors and could’ve embellished or omitted content to suit their agenda.

However, Trump’s mouth has been his worst enemy and to spout off prematurely that the facility was “completely and totally obliterated” and Iran’s nuclear weapons program has been wiped out of existence, could come back to haunt him.

Wasn't aware CBS broke it. This was the first thing I could find that wasn't pay-walled.

I think the damage (or lack thereof) may still not yet be fully known, so totally possible to adjust what information is given on that.

The bigger part is what exactly does "much" of Iran’s nuclear material really mean? 51%, 75%, all of it plus some infastructure stuff? We know they were scrambling all over the site before we attacked, so obviously they moved some of it.
 
Wasn't aware CBS broke it. This was the first thing I could find that wasn't pay-walled.

I think the damage (or lack thereof) may still not yet be fully known, so totally possible to adjust what information is given on that.

The bigger part is what exactly does "much" of Iran’s nuclear material really mean? 51%, 75%, all of it plus some infastructure stuff? We know they were scrambling all over the site before we attacked, so obviously they moved some of it.
400kg is the total I have seen.
Trump waited too long.
 
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