Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

Should the US intervene to assist in the recovery of the kidnapped Nigerian schoolgirls?

  • yes

    Votes: 24 50.0%

  • no

    Votes: 24 50.0%
  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
Viper1 said:
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27504924

I don't think the world realizes how right the former Prime Minister is.
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I have to say I'm a little shocked to hear the USA, to name but one country, is not contributing more, a lot more.
It's a hell of a challenge, particularly when dealing with corrupt and/or countries racked with violence but the rewards long term are immeasurable in terms of global and local security, savings in foreign aid, advancements in science etc... This maybe the single most important global goal at present.

A hell of a better investment than giving Pakistan etc... untold millions of dollars too!
 
Ms. Gillard put a lot of money into Indonesian madrassas which on the face of it looks a bit silly. But as her government pointed out if a person at a madrassa only learns to recite the koran but is left with no other basic life skills, i.e; reading and basic maths, where will they end up? This is what her aid program specifically targeted, education. The current lot in Canberra questioned it when in opposition but settled down when it was pointed out it had a net benefit. One can only hope that they will continue with the program.
 
pardus said:
I have to say I'm a little shocked to hear the USA, to name but one country, is not contributing more, a lot more.
It's a hell of a challenge, particularly when dealing with corrupt and/or countries racked with violence but the rewards long term are immeasurable in terms of global and local security, savings in foreign aid, advancements in science etc... This maybe the single most important global goal at present.

A hell of a better investment than giving Pakistan etc... untold millions of dollars too!
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Americans soured on Africa after Somalia, content to let the French, Italians, English and Spanish handle the job.
 
TLDR20 said:
I would like it if we fixed American schools before exporting money to fund others education.
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Education here is in trouble and does need fixing.

SOWT said:
Americans soured on Africa after Somalia, content to let the French, Italians, English and Spanish handle the job.
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I'm guessing AFRICOM has signaled a change with that.
 
TLDR20 said:
I would like it if we fixed American schools before exporting money to fund others education.
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That IMO would put the education program at zero as there would be the complaint that the home system isn't fixed yet so why spend elsewhere. It seems to have had an effect in Indonesia & also Yemen, Afghanistan & Ethiopia. The pen does seem to be mightier than the sword sometimes.
 
CQB said:
That IMO would put the education program at zero as there would be the complaint that the home system isn't fixed yet so why spend elsewhere. It seems to have had an effect in Indonesia & also Yemen, Afghanistan & Ethiopia. The pen does seem to be mightier than the sword sometimes.
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Well our system is not nationalized. I don't like sending federal money overseas when that fed money could be spent on a nationalized education program.
 
I see what you're getting at but do you see my point? The end results of the two arguments are different. Both alleviate a shortfall in education, but one can curtail radical thought and that's why the madrassas were targeted. It's a CT measure.
 
CQB said:
I see what you're getting at but do you see my point? The end results of the two arguments are different. Both alleviate a shortfall in education, but one can curtail radical thought and that's why the madrassas were targeted. It's a CT measure.
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Except we are not smart enough to drive the curriculum. We'll ship money with very few strings attached, ensuring we don't insult the local War Lord/Imam/etc.
pardus said:
Education here is in trouble and does need fixing.



I'm guessing AFRICOM has signaled a change with that.
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AFRICOM was not a decision by the American People, that decision was made by a small group of Politicians.
You still don't see this massive demand for us to rescue Syria, etc.
 
TLDR20 said:
Well our system is not nationalized. I don't like sending federal money overseas when that fed money could be spent on a nationalized education program.
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Why do you want to nationalise the education system? That would take all the competitive ability aways from the state and local government.
 
JAB said:
Why do you want to nationalise the education system? That would take all the competitive ability aways from the state and local government.
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Competitive ability? What competitive ability is there in education? Do you want the future leaders of America to be uneducated because their cities were competitive?( this happens now, people from low tax revenue cities get shit education) This is off topic, but wake up, education isn't something that should be different from one city/county/ state to the next. If we want to stay relevant in the future of this planet we need to change the way we do things.

There should not be a difference in the way a person from the rural America is educated than from that if a city person. They need the same information to be successful. Using local tax revenue to fund schools ensures poor people stay poor, and rich people stay rich.
 
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I disagree, there is no one size fits all in education, everyone learns in different ways and historically things get worse when the federal gov starts pushing policies that may fit one area but screws up a hundred different areas.

Having a national base line requirement is one thing, nationalism of the entire education system is another. I do not support that at all.
 
Thanks for posting it, I'm still a bit confused on the costs (I would love to get my eyes on a expenditure break down) but the supplying equipment I would imagine adds to the cost significantly. Thanks again!
 
JAB said:
I disagree, there is no one size fits all in education, everyone learns in different ways and historically things get worse when the federal gov starts pushing policies that may fit one area but screws up a hundred different areas.

Having a national base line requirement is one thing, nationalism of the entire education system is another. I do not support that at all.
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Did you attend school all in the same area growing up? Just curious.
 

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