Maduro Captured

AWP said:
Something I thought about the other day, I wonder how many of the 160th and ground guys on the Maduro mission had prior combat experience?

I only bring it up because we had two decades of war and some very, very limited stuff in the last few years. It stands to reason dudes are hitting CAG without a single combat deployment by now.
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Unless things have changed, we may not have many active wars (I mean, there's always Syria) but CAG and even (gulp) DevGru have stayed pretty active. But I agree there are probably guys getting into those units with no combat experience.
 
Devildoc said:
Unless things have changed, we may not have many active wars (I mean, there's always Syria) but CAG and even (gulp) DevGru have stayed pretty active. But I agree there are probably guys getting into those units with no combat experience.
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I see a lot of this at West Point now. When I first came here, it was extremely rare for any of the officers or NCOs to not have a combat patch. Now it's becoming the norm, through no fault of the soldiers. There simply aren't as many chances to get into the fight.
 
Devildoc said:
Unless things have changed, we may not have many active wars (I mean, there's always Syria) but CAG and even (gulp) DevGru have stayed pretty active. But I agree there are probably guys getting into those units with no combat experience.
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We had a longtime member here who had to bounce because of his military commitments. He posted once that the 75th (this was...2018, 2019, somewhere in there) had E-5's without a combat deployment. Now we're 6-7 years removed so I don't think it unrealistic to have SF and 75th alumni without trigger time, same as the 160th who are almost certainly seeing aircrews without combat.

And yes, we've seen this before and the units did not suffer as a result, but it is something to consider: the Maduro raid probably had guys without combat time. And that is one more reason only the US could make the raid happen. Experience built a training process so thorough that we don't need a bunch of battle hardened guys to complete a complex and dangerous mission.
 
AWP said:
We had a longtime member here who had to bounce because of his military commitments. He posted once that the 75th (this was...2018, 2019, somewhere in there) had E-5's without a combat deployment. Now we're 6-7 years removed so I don't think it unrealistic to have SF and 75th alumni without trigger time, same as the 160th who are almost certainly seeing aircrews without combat.

And yes, we've seen this before and the units did not suffer as a result, but it is something to consider: the Maduro raid probably had guys without combat time. And that is one more reason only the US could make the raid happen. Experience built a training process so thorough that we don't need a bunch of battle hardened guys to complete a complex and dangerous mission.
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Guys I know at Bragg and Lejeune now (because of my job) are E5s, E6s with plenty of JCETS but no combat experience. It is what it is. Same as us in the 90s.

Fully agree regarding the training process. We've seen that with Delta before (Modelo Prison in Panama and Mogadishu).
 
AWP said:
We had a longtime member here who had to bounce because of his military commitments. He posted once that the 75th (this was...2018, 2019, somewhere in there) had E-5's without a combat deployment. Now we're 6-7 years removed so I don't think it unrealistic to have SF and 75th alumni without trigger time, same as the 160th who are almost certainly seeing aircrews without combat.

And yes, we've seen this before and the units did not suffer as a result, but it is something to consider: the Maduro raid probably had guys without combat time. And that is one more reason only the US could make the raid happen. Experience built a training process so thorough that we don't need a bunch of battle hardened guys to complete a complex and dangerous mission.
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Yep. Having been to combat... or not... doesn't mean you're a good guy... or not. We probably all know dirtbags who have deployed, and good people who didn't. Bowe Bergdahl is a combat vet. 'nuff said.
 
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-the politicians that used to collect "look the other way money" are probably super enraged right now

-the politicians that enjoy insider trading profits based on increased military spending needed to fund this effort, are probably masturbating in their offices over the kickbacks
 
AWP said:
We had a longtime member here who had to bounce because of his military commitments. He posted once that the 75th (this was...2018, 2019, somewhere in there) had E-5's without a combat deployment. Now we're 6-7 years removed so I don't think it unrealistic to have SF and 75th alumni without trigger time, same as the 160th who are almost certainly seeing aircrews without combat.

And yes, we've seen this before and the units did not suffer as a result, but it is something to consider: the Maduro raid probably had guys without combat time. And that is one more reason only the US could make the raid happen. Experience built a training process so thorough that we don't need a bunch of battle hardened guys to complete a complex and dangerous mission.
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How about the planning process of an operation like this? I feel that a lot of the planners probably had GWOT experience in operations and can bring real world experience to the planning...the whole This works...to, This sound good, but won't work...etc
 
Kraut783 said:
How about the planning process of an operation like this? I feel that a lot of the planners probably had GWOT experience in operations and can bring real world experience to the planning...the whole This works...to, This sound good, but won't work...etc
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I'm willing to bet that a lot of the planning was done by the guys executing the missions.
 
I have had it with the internal black-pilling I have seen from Americans and our military about our capabilities and the capabilities of our ‘peers’. It pisses me off to no end - looking at you, Intel Community.

This is what happens when we decide you’re done fucking around.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009732400520077338
 
amlove21 said:
I have had it with the internal black-pilling I have seen from Americans and our military about our capabilities and the capabilities of our ‘peers’. It pisses me off to no end - looking at you, Intel Community.

This is what happens when we decide you’re done fucking around.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009732400520077338
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I don't have any doubts about our capabilities, but I also don't believe this "firsthand account" from a guard. Every news story circles back to this tweet as proof.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009843044028428714
 
Cookie_ said:
I don't have any doubts about our capabilities, but I also don't believe this "firsthand account" from a guard. Every news story circles back to this tweet as proof.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2009843044028428714
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There’s a voice recording of the interview shared on telegram and WhatsApp groups; NYT and everyone else reporting at this point.

I’ll take the psyop win over our adversaries if embellished but the entire rest of the story- wraith drones, cyber attack and timing, etc- has checked. Reflections from the 35 community and ground teams seem to check as well.

Y u blackpilling bruh. Propaganda is bad… from everyone except us.
 
amlove21 said:
I’ll take the psyop win over our adversaries if embellished but the entire rest of the story- wraith drones, cyber attack and timing, etc- has checked. Reflections from the 35 community and ground teams seem to check as well.

Y u blackpilling bruh. Propaganda is bad… from everyone except us.
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I think there's a line between propaganda that's terrifying versus so over the top it's unserious.

The tech shit is strong enough, but dude catching one banger and acting like The Deathwatch came at them with some psykers in tow in a tad much.
 
Dude, if I was in the SOF community right now, I'd be PSYOPing my ASS OFF. And laughing while I did it.

"You know, the reasons the Russian air defenses didn't work isn't because the systems are so shitty, it's because the Russians made a deal with the Americans. Everyone should DEFINITELY keep buying Russian equipment because it's TOTALLY effective. Also, don't trust the Russians, bro."

"The Americans have a sonic device code named Black Bolt, which can kill you with just one word."

"I heard it was sharks with freakin' lasers."


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