MARSOF Intel/ 8071

I have seen members of fires and intel wearing bubbles that more than likely have never been in your mentioned list of MOSs. They are however, unless I'm completely mistaken - holding the same enabler secondary mos we all share. That stated and the mentions of the training possibility from the leadership that have been around much longer than I have would leave me comfortable sharing said information without any BTR reviews or condescending questions.

Go in the locker any day of the week and you'll bump into a pair prepping for the mentioned predive. Most of those guys are support types and I don't think theyre busting their asses in the water to find you somewhere and talk out of it. Your comment about knowing CSOs and Recon Guys who didn't make it doesn't change the fact that these guys did.
 
I have seen members of fires and intel wearing bubbles that more than likely have never been in your mentioned list of MOSs. They are however, unless I'm completely mistaken - holding the same enabler secondary mos we all share. That stated and the mentions of the training possibility from the leadership that have been around much longer than I have would leave me comfortable sharing said information without any BTR reviews or condescending questions.

Go in the locker any day of the week and you'll bump into a pair prepping for the mentioned predive. Most of those guys are support types and I don't think theyre busting their asses in the water to find you somewhere and talk out of it. Your comment about knowing CSOs and Recon Guys who didn't make it doesn't change the fact that these guys did.


Pump your breaks cool breeze. One, those are not my list of MOS they're the Marine Corps laid out in MCO 3150.4. Two, I don't know what you think the enabler secondary MOS for MARSOC means, but it does not mean that you get carte blanch on schools. Three, that leadership thats been around longer than you, would be me. We'll just round it down to 13 years between the Recon and MARSOC community with about three being a Combatant Diver. So when I speak on such things you may want to take note.

Now see where you screwed up is that you started trying to state facts that you don't know. Would you like to tell me how often the Dive locker runs re-qualification dives and or a pre dive? I'll give you a hint its not any day of the week, and for that matter its barely even every other week, if every month.

Then there's the whole most of those guys are support types comment. That being said I never saw ANY support personnel running around Stone Bay with dive bubbles; not in the past four years. Had you said you know of one guy who did it, that might be believable, hell I've been killing people for the past half year or so, so maybe there was a policy change since I've been gone. But if that were the case that would mean that in the past four to five classes there has been a huge influx of support personnel in these courses. That would be interesting considering the MARSOC standing policy on meeting all the pre requisites for MCD, including an MOS that meets the Marine Corps order. As I stated before, the course is a bitch and just like in this community reputation is everything, even the Commands reputation. Do you really think the Command would send personnel down to a school like that without them already meeting the requirements? For that matter when the NOM sheet gets submitted it has to get checked off by a senior 0372 who was a 0321 and MCD graduate for well over a decade. Not sure you understand how their mind works but I can assure you his response upon seeing a NOM sheet like that would not only be no but fuck no.

And now that I think about it your post says there are support guys in PRE-DIVE. Thats good for them but last time I checked pre-dive is not dive school nor does it qualify you to go to dive school. It is a check for the Command to ensure you are physically capable. Hell, we can put anybody through pre-dive all day any day, just like I can put somebody through a pre-sniper or pre-JTAC. But unless they meet all the requirements for those schools ie MOS they aren't going.

Do you even know why non essential personnel aren't allowed to go to MCD and why dive pay is more than static line pay? Its because diving is dangerous as shit, hence the Marine Corps order requiring an MOS that requires a need for the skill set. Last time I checked not a whole lot of need for an intel analyst or truck driver to surreptitiously enter a denied area via sub surface navigation. So next time you'd like to get snippy I suggest you do it in your lane and have all the facts.
 
Guys got to get their badges after all. It's all some guys care about.

It always annoyed the shit out of me when guys were badge chasing. People would line up down the hallway for seats at jump school, but trying to get them to go to an advanced comm school (something that would actually make them better at their job) was like pulling teeth... :-/
 
It always annoyed the shit out of me when guys were badge chasing. People would line up down the hallway for seats at jump school, but trying to get them to go to an advanced comm school (something that would actually make them better at their job) was like pulling teeth... :-/

The military culture in general places an emphasis on badges, tabs, and assorted baubles. When a young E-2/E-3 sees his/ her NCOs wearing their bling, it reinforces the need for said bling.

I've come to the belief that every branch should ban all of that nonsense. Keep the badges and everything, but keep them off the uniform. You aren't a great NCO because you passed some course, you're a great NCO because of your abilities.
 
The military culture in general places an emphasis on badges, tabs, and assorted baubles. When a young E-2/E-3 sees his/ her NCOs wearing their bling, it reinforces the need for said bling.

I've come to the belief that every branch should ban all of that nonsense. Keep the badges and everything, but keep them off the uniform. You aren't a great NCO because you passed some course, you're a great NCO because of your abilities.
AMEN brother!!! This is the same reason why my old CO never wore all his shit. This guy was SF prior to going green to gold so he had almost every cool guy bauble you could think of. I keep that same mentality to this day.
 
The military culture in general places an emphasis on badges, tabs, and assorted baubles. When a young E-2/E-3 sees his/ her NCOs wearing their bling, it reinforces the need for said bling.

I've come to the belief that every branch should ban all of that nonsense. Keep the badges and everything, but keep them off the uniform. You aren't a great NCO because you passed some course, you're a great NCO because of your abilities.

PT badge? :-"
 
You probably noticed the CWO3 at Intel BN. He got his bubble through Radio Recon...SigInt.

CWO3 from which Intel Bn? I am currently with 1st Intel on CP.

On another note, I just returned from a year long deployment with an Advisor Team and decided to take an analyst billet with MARSOC. No one in my unit seems to know much information other than I need to check-in with MARSOC July 1. I had to extend for an additional year, but I've heard various information from Marines regarding what I'll be doing. Can anyone provide any insight on the training I'll likely be receiving or what else I could be doing other than ANALYST work? PM me if you have any pertinent information.
 
I have seen members of fires and intel wearing bubbles that more than likely have never been in your mentioned list of MOSs. They are however, unless I'm completely mistaken - holding the same enabler secondary mos we all share. That stated and the mentions of the training possibility from the leadership that have been around much longer than I have would leave me comfortable sharing said information without any BTR reviews or condescending questions.

Go in the locker any day of the week and you'll bump into a pair prepping for the mentioned predive. Most of those guys are support types and I don't think theyre busting their asses in the water to find you somewhere and talk out of it. Your comment about knowing CSOs and Recon Guys who didn't make it doesn't change the fact that these guys did.

Gold bubble or silver bubble? Big difference between the two. BRC or ITC and pre dive course is a prerequisite for Marine Combatant Diver. I find it hard to believe that they would send intel or fires guys to MCD. If they want a school send them to BRC or ITC. I hate badge hunters.
 
Can anyone provide any insight on the training I'll likely be receiving or what else I could be doing other than ANALYST work?

If you're so concerned about everything other than YOUR MOS, they'll probably say screw it and just make you an honorary CSO. You'll be a MFF/MCD/Breacher/Sniper SDAP 12 earning life taker in no time.

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Don't get it twisted, you're going to MARSOC to be an analyst. CSOs come down a different pipe, and they don't need wannabe CSOs, they need analysts. We have the best analyst training in the Marine Corps. What isn't here, you will be sent to get. Anything else you happen to get is gravy.

S/F,
Stork
 
Nothing was ever, "twisted," I understand what my PRIMARY job is going to be. I was just trying to find additional information from others who may have taken the same billet. Nor did my question infer that I was trying to be a wannabe CSO. Nonetheless, I appreciate the information.
 
Actually I do know two HET Marines who are combatant divers and I think they are both freefall qualified. Both of them were 0321s who crossed over and went to school prior to moving over to intel. As BRC graduates though, they would meet the prerequisites to go to MCD if they didn't go as 21s. It'd be harder to find an operations chief to let them go though.
 
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