It was in the X (Twitter) post. Appears the original author deleted it. Boo :/
Missing F-35
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It was in the X (Twitter) post. Appears the original author deleted it. Boo :/
ThunderHorse
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Devildoc
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Given the pilot's age he was either an IP or qualifying on the F-35, but in either case he is an experienced pilot.
Ejected pilot of F-35 that went missing told 911 dispatcher he didn't know where fighter jet was
Ejected pilot of F-35 that went missing told 911 dispatcher he didn't know where fighter jet was
ThunderHorse
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To be frank if he ejected, how would he know where it is?
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Your link didn't work for me. Saw this one post of the 911 call:
Aside: I understand 911 dispatchers aren't military or aircraft experts In any way but, holy cow, she does not understand at all what's being told to her.
Devildoc
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The article stated that he is 48 and an experienced pilot.
The crash is often viewed while in the harness.
I think the poor dispatcher thought she was getting pranked at first. Or had a mentally unstable person showing up at a house claiming to be a pilot.
Homeowner: Hello, 911? I have a pilot that fell from the sky into my backyard.
911: Okay sir. Are you with the patient?
Pilot: It was 2,000ft, I fell 2,000ft.
911: Okay, hold one moment. *Thinking to herself..."These kids are getting more brazen in their prank stories"*
That's the cartoon picture in my head.
As a non-aviator book reader who had the opportunity to speak with pilots and maintainers until 2021: An S Tier plane when it works, but equipped with a trash-ass engine the DoD decided to keep in lieu of other options. The ALIS (I hope the follow-on system is better, but I lack that insight) failed the community. I know for an absolute fact Lockheed is horrible to work with, even down to ground-based training systems.
The -35 suffers from some things (given my qualifications above)
- Concurrency where a system moves through development and into procurement at the same time, which makes it harder to fix problems discovered in testing
- Engines (see above)
- "Too big to fail"
- Trying to make a "joint" anything with an aircraft. This has failed horribly going back to the 60's. The service's various requirements make this almost impossible
- An incremental rollout where the gov't accepts aircraft with known handicaps where it may or may not address those consideration (first bullet)
- Cost overruns which you could see coming from miles away, but we shrugged those off
The F-35 is an AMAZING aircraft managed by people who could fuck up a Girl Scout cookie desk at your local grocery store.
On the plus side, everyone met their DEI/ Consideration for Others/ Whateverthefuckelse CBT training for the year. I know this because an auto-generated email appeared in my Inbox reminding me I have 30 days to complete...whatever my deficiencies.
The F-35 is actually great, but held back by you know what and who.
The -35 suffers from some things (given my qualifications above)
- Concurrency where a system moves through development and into procurement at the same time, which makes it harder to fix problems discovered in testing
- Engines (see above)
- "Too big to fail"
- Trying to make a "joint" anything with an aircraft. This has failed horribly going back to the 60's. The service's various requirements make this almost impossible
- An incremental rollout where the gov't accepts aircraft with known handicaps where it may or may not address those consideration (first bullet)
- Cost overruns which you could see coming from miles away, but we shrugged those off
The F-35 is an AMAZING aircraft managed by people who could fuck up a Girl Scout cookie desk at your local grocery store.
On the plus side, everyone met their DEI/ Consideration for Others/ Whateverthefuckelse CBT training for the year. I know this because an auto-generated email appeared in my Inbox reminding me I have 30 days to complete...whatever my deficiencies.
The F-35 is actually great, but held back by you know what and who.
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Heh, I remember when Blackhawks were crashing more than flying in their transition time....I guess the same with the Ospreys.
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You can hardly find a consistent story about this.
It was a B model (we know this at least)... being ferried to Edwards for testing or California and delivery to the Marines. The pilot was Air Force or a Lockheed employee, or a gov civilian or maybe a non-Lockheed contractor. The pilot is either in serious but stable condition or was taken to a hospital for observation.
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The Marine Corps released their report on the "runaway" F-35 that crashed in SC last year. The report finds the pilot responsible for the crash but recommended no punitive action.
I haven't read the report in detail, but will try to do so this weekend.
Final Conclusions On Bizarre Crash Of 'Zombie' F-35B That Flew Without A Pilot For 64 Miles Released
I haven't read the report in detail, but will try to do so this weekend.
Final Conclusions On Bizarre Crash Of 'Zombie' F-35B That Flew Without A Pilot For 64 Miles Released
ThunderHorse
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Well, they just relieved him of command.
I disagree with the report.
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"This flying, low observable, computer suffered multiple system failures. We find the pilot was responsible."
"instrument meteorological conditions and heavy precipitation" + "electrical event during flight, which induced failures of... the tactical air navigation system, and the instrument landing system". There are weather and visibility minimums at play too, so maybe the pilot was within those parameters?
Unless there's some other tech out there, you are left with a PAR (Precision Approach Radar) approach and landing, but again, visibility minimums are at play. Can you even shoot a PAR with a "stealth" aircraft? I don't know.
"instrument meteorological conditions and heavy precipitation" + "electrical event during flight, which induced failures of... the tactical air navigation system, and the instrument landing system". There are weather and visibility minimums at play too, so maybe the pilot was within those parameters?
Unless there's some other tech out there, you are left with a PAR (Precision Approach Radar) approach and landing, but again, visibility minimums are at play. Can you even shoot a PAR with a "stealth" aircraft? I don't know.
ilot error, but no punishment for the pilot.
