National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

[Locksteady]

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Thank you for providing these reasons.

Your post did a great job helping me appreciate the rationale behind stance, and provided well-needed context for your reactions.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Thought I'd post these here to shed light on the logic behind these faux 'organizers' and their tactics. Doxxing and showing up at peoples homes, to threaten and intimidate them, is straight out of Saul Alinky's 'Rules For Radical's' playbook.

Rules for Radicals - Wikipedia

13. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions."

9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist."

Food for thought.

 

[GOTWA]

There's that word 'activist' again.

 

[Devildoc]

They like playing the "I'm not touching you" game that my kids play with each other. When they get touched back, it's gonna leave a mark.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

@Devildoc Which they'll respond with the tactic below. Doesn't help our MSM is shilling for the useful idiots and pinko commies activists. The heads organizing these idiots want bloodshed and violence, it's how they get their concessions.

11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside. Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog."

 

[DA SWO]

@Devildoc Which they'll respond with the tactic below. Doesn't help our MSM is shilling for the useful idiots and pinko commies activists. The heads organizing these idiots want bloodshed and violence, it's how they get their concessions.

11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside. Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog."

I think we are too deep into "the revolution" to think people will swing to the left when an Antifa member gets capped.
Portland driver being killed will encourage others to just start driving through crowds as stopping means a vandalized car, beating, or getting shot.

I am still waiting for all the self proclaimed 3%'rs to start pushing back.

 

[racing_kitty]

Portland driver being killed will encourage others to just start driving through crowds...

I’m not going to post a link to it, but the driver you referenced, named Adam Haner, is alive according to the GoFundMe that his brother Brian started for him. It’s up to $56k now.

 

[Hungry_Dog]

Self defense is something different though isn't it? As long as the opinion of the average person are still being sought after, proactive violence is distasteful either direction.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

I think we are too deep into "the revolution" to think people will swing to the left when an Antifa member gets capped.
Portland driver being killed will encourage others to just start driving through crowds as stopping means a vandalized car, beating, or getting shot.

I am still waiting for all the self proclaimed 3%'rs to start pushing back.

It's not about the people, but the narrative. Look at it like this. One could theoretically create skull mounds outta useful idiots, but without killing/capturing the leaders of this farce nothing will change. To their leadership, the Antifa/Black Bloc/useful idiots are at best disposable pawns; at worst they're future liabilities.

In a way, the visible leaders of this movement are only middle men. The people pulling the strings behind the show, the ones funding and who will lead the negotiations, are the ones who stand to benefit from this chaos. To halt this, one would have to target/disappear the people pulling strings from behind closed doors and make examples of the middlemen (visible leaders).

Add on: Another thing to consider is that the true leadership behind these idiots is international, this ain't just home grown idiocy.

 

[Cookie_]

I am still waiting for all the self proclaimed 3%'rs to start pushing back.

They never will. A large number of these "Patriotic" militias/groups only care when its the sort of Government overreach they don't agree with.

I doubt many(if any) threepers will push back, because they fully support the government doing all the work right now, because it's happening to ANTIFA and not them.

 

[ThunderHorse]

They never will. A large number of these "Patriotic" militias/groups only care when its the sort of Government overreach they don't agree with.

I doubt many(if any) threepers will push back, because they fully support the government doing all the work right now, because it's happening to ANTIFA and not them.

There is literally nothing happening to Antifa. They're being caught and then released with charges dropped. What @DA SWO is talking about is the 3% pushing back directly against Antifa for committing crimes on common persons.

Self defense is something different though isn't it? As long as the opinion of the average person are still being sought after, proactive violence is distasteful either direction.

Antifa seems to be quite proactive with their violence atm.

 

[Hungry_Dog]

Antifa seems to be quite proactive with their violence atm.

Yea they are; they're also hiding behind BLM for all that juicy progressive protection. Puts the average joe in a tough spot.

 

[DA SWO]

I’m not going to post a link to it, but the driver you referenced, named Adam Haner, is alive according to the GoFundMe that his brother Brian started for him. It’s up to $56k now.

That's GREAT news.
I'll look for that GFM later tonight.

 

[medicchick]

That's GREAT news.
I'll look for that GFM later tonight.

A warrant is out for the arrest of the pos who kicked him unconscious on video. They know who he is. It's just a matter if time as he apparently goes down there every night.

 

[racing_kitty]

A warrant is out for the arrest of the pos who kicked him unconscious on video. They know who he is. It's just a matter if time as he apparently goes down there every night.

I’ll bet the charges are dropped and that asshole walks before he’s spent an hour inside.

 

[medicchick]

I’ll bet the charges are dropped and that asshole walks before he’s spent an hour inside.

Probably but his name is being blasted all over social media. He'll some sort of comeuppance.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Mods move this if it fits in the Politics thread, but it has to do with race so I figured it could go here as well.

Goodyear says you can't wear Blues Lives or All Lives Matter apparel.

Goodyear responds to zero-tolerance policy slide labeled by employee as discriminatory

 

[GOTWA]

Ooof, that one will backfire on them.

 

[Locksteady]

From the article:

"If someone wants to wear a BLM shirt in here, then cool. I'm not going to get offended about it. But at the same time, if someone's not going to be able to wear something that is politically based, even in the farthest stretch of the imagination, that's discriminatory," said the employee under the agreement of anonymity due to fears they could lose their job. "If we're talking about equality, then it needs to be equality. If not, it's discrimination."

Couldn't have said it better.

 

[Marauder06]

Mods move this if it fits in the Politics thread, but it has to do with race so I figured it could go here as well.

Goodyear says you can't wear Blues Lives or All Lives Matter apparel.

Goodyear responds to zero-tolerance policy slide labeled by employee as discriminatory

“Goodyear is committed to fostering an inclusive and respectful workplace where all of our associates can do their best in a spirit of teamwork. As part of this commitment, we do allow our associates to express their support on racial injustice and other equity issues but ask that they refrain from workplace expressions, verbal or otherwise, in support of political campaigning for any candidate or political party as well as other similar forms of advocacy that fall outside the scope of equity issues.”

That'pretty shitty rationale on Goodyear's part. "We don't want any politics in the workplace... unless it's politics we support (or at least politics we're afraid to crack down on in the current political climate)."