National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

[Devildoc]

I have so many questions and so many opinions... just probably best to keep my pie hole shut...

In a convo earlier I asked, "I wonder if it's truly a 'racial' thing, or a 'cop power trip' thing?", and was told I am a racist because I even asked the question. When I pointed out this has in fact happened to white people, the accuser doubled down. So there's that.

@Ooh-Rah you be safe up there, you hear?

 

[Ooh-Rah]

I have so many questions and so many opinions... just probably best to keep my pie hole shut...

In a convo earlier I asked, "I wonder if it's truly a 'racial' thing, or a 'cop power trip' thing?", and was told I am a racist because I even asked the question. When I pointed out this has in fact happened to white people, the accuser doubled down. So there's that.

@Ooh-Rah you be safe up there, you hear?

 

[Ooh-Rah]

That’s because their flights do not get into town until about 3 PM.

As I was saying...

Police chief: Much of riot damage caused by those from outside Minneapolis

 

[Blizzard]

Probably has them wrong because they aren't clear.

It's clear. Here is video of the part I described.
Dragon Wok surveillance video shows moments before George Floyd arrest

What's not clear is what happened after he was brought over to the other patrol vehicle that resulted in him being on the ground with an officer kneeling on his neck.

 

[Blizzard]

In a convo earlier I asked, "I wonder if it's truly a 'racial' thing, or a 'cop power trip' thing?", and was told I am a racist because I even asked the question. When I pointed out this has in fact happened to white people, the accuser doubled down. So there's that.

I think your question was fair. I don't know that this was truly racially motivated; I'm not sure race really play a role here. But, hey, let's not let that get in the way of a "good time".

 

[Blizzard]

As I was saying...

Police chief: Much of riot damage caused by those from outside Minneapolis

Yeah, I'm sure there were some but there are plenty of fuckwits there as well.

 

[Muppet]

Fucking shit show. Many cop friends of mine, most are calling the cops out for the abuse/murder of Mr. Floyd. A couple cop friends of mine are reserving judgment till further investigation.

My take as a paramedic/former SWAT medic? Positional asphyxia kills, I've treated it, I've seen hyped cops holding dudes down after a chase and I have politely intervened by saying, bro, roll him over so I can check him out.

I've educated cops on this and excited delirium (probably not that for this case), many are positive about understanding it and will call us I'd suspected.

That said, I'm not sure what constitutes murder, I'm not a cop or lawyer but this cop is responsible for the death of Mr. Floyd when all the cop needed to do was roll him onto his side when Mr. Floyd was begging, should have never been in that position anyhow.

Now, good cops, like my brother in law and many friends, including our very own, Policemedic, all that abide by their oaths, upholding our constitution will, again, be labeled as pigs, crooked and any other name.

Meanwhile, what was something I would definitely stand behind, of the peaceful protests over his death, turns into hoodlums, needing a reason to loot, burn their own hoods.

You lost me when you went from wanting justice, Mr. Floyd received no due process, instead, is dead, now, a fucking abortion.

Keep your heads on swivels...

 

[AWP]

What happened is a goddamned travesty.

I still don't understand how it is automatically racism.

 

[Blizzard]

St. Paul Midway (another shitty area) is getting an early start on the looting today. Target and other stores being overrun.

Surprisingly, have heard very little about trouble in North Minneapolis. Probably biding their time.

 

[Devildoc]

I still don't understand how it is automatically racism.

Because it's an easy dead horse to beat: you don't have to look at deeper issues (real or perceived), you don't need corporate accountability, and you don't require trust or respect to make the assertion.

The people making the assertion have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

 

[Muppet]

George Floyd showed no signs of life from time EMS arrived, fire department report says

Not surprised. He was apyxitated. He had chances to survive, multiple times, including not being forced and held into that position, brain anoxia starts 3 to 4 mins, resp arrest, cardiac arrest soon after.

 

[Muppet]

What happened is a goddamned travesty.

I still don't understand how it is automatically racism.

Because, many folks are kept and believe in the victim mentality, fanned by the government and media. Gotta maintain that narrative of racial hatred instead of fucking cunt, dick head cops not doing their job.

Lots of good cops will suffer now, the cronies like Sharpton, Jackson, Obama will weigh in too.

I won't be ignorant and say, there are not obvious race issues in our country but not all is race related.

 

[Blizzard]

Because, many folks are kept and believe in the victim mentality, fanned by the government and media. Gotta maintain that narrative of racial hatred instead of of fucking cunt, dick head cops not doing their job.

Lots of good cops will suffer now, the cronies like Sharpton, Jackson, Obama will weigh in too.

I won't be ignorant and say, there are not obvious race issues in our country but not all is race related.

Agreed. Some people are just assholes.

 

[Cookie_]

What happened is a goddamned travesty.

I still don't understand how it is automatically racism.

Alot of people who share that mindset believe in systemic racism, IE the systems we have as a society and utilize with our police forces create an environment in which black/brown suspects are treated much more harshly than their white counterparts are.

It's why you may be seeing a bunch of posts pointing out that some white mass shooters (Charleston Church/El Paso, mostly) are seemingly better treated by the police than minorities.

Whether racist or not, it's dogshit policing.

ETA: Stuff like this doesn't help with the issue

https://twitter.com/x/status/1265758475377762305

 

[Grunt]

...I still don't understand how it is automatically racism.

Because that is the pathetic society we have become as a nation. If any incident isn't the same race, religion, etc., it's either racist or a hate crime.

I wish people were big enough to simply call things what they are and keep things simple.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Rosedale, Maplewood malls and MOA have closed for the day to avoid damage.

St. Paul police are in a standoff with protesters at Target while police cars are being damaged.

It’s 2:15pm.

Gonna be a “fun” night.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Hang on to the end - Discount Tire gets a vehicle rammed into it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1266098618236375048

 

[Ooh-Rah]

...and 200 National Guard Troops have been called in.

 

[RackMaster]

What exactly will they do? Stand by and watch? Show of force?

Here's hoping for CS and water cannon's. Maybe even some old fashioned shields and batons for head smashing.

 

[Totentanz]