National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

I'm not saying I agree with @R.Caerbannog. But by strict definition a coup does not have to involve the military. A violent uprising to depose a government can come from its citizens. I don't think we're there with this at all. What I do think is several governors, and the president did not act decisively to protect the American people from criminals. Like Rogan said, you have to put out this fire.

If Governor Walz had immediately deployed the entirety of 1/34 ID rather than just a battalion we'd be in a difference space of time right now. If Cuomo had done the same with 27th IBCT to NY we'd also be in a different space than we are right now.
 
That arrest was definitely for his benefit - and there's a reason that sort of conclusion to someone with the nerve to do that happened north of the border. :sneaky:
 
Ooh-Rah said:
And there in lies the problem with folks who push conspiracy theories.
Instead of saying, “here’s my proof”, we get “prove I’m not right”, or “it’s all out there for you to find”.
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Part of the problem is the overabundance and proliferation of any kind of media you want to use that can support or refute your position, all the way from the far left to the far right and back around again. You find enough of information like that you can build your case and argument just as your opponent can do the same to refute.

Obviously the other big part of the problem is being unable to figure out the veracity or the legitimacy of that media or information.

Shit, forget about politics, just try googling an above ground pool and you can find thousands of articles and blogs and websites to either talk you into one or out of one.
 
Ooh-Rah said:
And there in lies the problem with folks who push conspiracy theories.
Instead of saying, “here’s my proof”, we get “prove I’m not right”, or “it’s all out there for you to find”.


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I've already provided a link to some of the resources and TTP's these guys are using. Everything else is either in this thread or can be found using the site search feature. Anything not here can be found via a quick search on your favorite engine.

Since you seem to want to lump me in with loonies, I'm going to refer you to Yuri Bezmenov and his explanation of ideological subversion. (I feel this is like the 3rd or 4th time this has been posted.)
 
amlove21 said:
I swear to god we are gassing up the Nickleback bacon... or crayon eaters... shit.

Is @RustyShackleford still around? What the fuck I need an adult.
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@amlove21 These are not the droids you are looking for!

I haven’t had the time or inclination to deal with threads like these, as most of the posters view shit through rose colored lenses and quite honestly don’t know what they’re talking about.

George Floyd, regardless of his criminal Hx and toxicology, is dead and should not be. Accountability is the game and those turds will be held accountable, as should the people who stood around and watched and/or recorded that incident. There’s a few roads I can go down here but I’ll keep it brief because I only have a few since I’m working again today/tonight.

People are pissed and rightfully so. People need to be held accountable. A good piece of this movement has been co-opted by all kinds of extremists of race creed and color, suburbanites, criminals, etc. I’ve seen it first hand all week. We’ve found all kinds of small caches For bad actors ranging from medical supplies to bats, rocks, Molotov cocktails, gas, etc. Due to the actions of 4 pieces of shit wearing badges, I have to watch my fucking back on the street just like a lot of other dudes in LE who are just trying to make the world a little less shitty.

Those of you who think this is some sort of large scale conspiracy ran by Soros, the Clintons, Masons, whatever, get your fucking T checked and stay off Facebook. Next you’ll be talking about UN troops on our borders.

Back to work. Maybe I’ll get to swap medic patches with a riot medic! :p
 
Marauder06 said:
I read the article. How was that an arrestable offense?
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There is precedent in Canadian common law that permits police to arrest people when they believe it may prevent a breach of the peace. The arrests at best would only reflect the safest and quickest way to prevent the breach from happening, but apparently doing something that can incite others to act violently (like wearing heavy make-up in public) can land you in jail.

Yes, this necessarily permits Canadian police officers to target and arrest specific people who haven't even committed a crime yet, and who in fact may be the targets of the predicted crime themselves (as in the case above), for the purpose of quelling the breach as expediently as possible. At that point it is up to the courts to assign or dismiss penalties to the arrested person. Also, the courts historically have leaned towards supporting the measures police take in these scenarios rather than heavily scrutinizing their tactical decisions. This is an interesting point to consider when people in America who disagreed with increasing scrutiny or penalization of American police officers who acted in the spur-of-the-moment meanwhile may support such measures in the Toronto case.
 
I believe they saved "blackface" from a face full of quick dry cement and/or a few axe handles to the head by "arresting/detaining him.

Gotta give it to Frey, took a huge set of brass clankers to go in there solo, but he still left to the sound of "shame - shame - shame".

GF Memorial a few miles from my house yesterday. I thought it prudent to pay my respects by watching it on the tele. RIP George. Justice is coming.

I'm for the 1st Amendment as long as the protests stay peaceful. The lamestream media are stoking the violence.
 

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