National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

[R.Caerbannog]

This is getting insane.

Atlanta Police Chief has now resigned.

Atlanta police chief steps down after black man shot and killed by an officer

It's gonna keep getting crazier and crazier until the elections dude (things might even kick off then). These people want martyrs and are gonna go outta their way to get them.

-Divide
-Conquer
-Destroy

Floyd's death has served as a very effective catalyst in the anarchy we're seeing. Expect to see more of these displays where people start to divide as 'ideological sides' are cemented.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

For anyone watching the Floyd protest videos and wondering why fireworks/firecrackers are being tossed at the police... turns out the 'protestors' were/are tossing bottle of gasoline at riot cops and NG guys in formation. The useful idiots doing this were trying to set our guys on fire, but failed.

If anyone remembers what happened to that captured Jordanian pilot... that's what the these people were trying to do.

The people who set this in motion need to be treated like enemy HVT's. Same with their spies and collaborators. Any foreign assets associated with this movement should be dealt with as well. These people are enemy combatants and traitors.

Add on: Any politicians giving top cover for these protestors are part of the problem as well.

 

[11Bull]

Last warning. Keep this thread on track. We have a whole thread of political bullshit.

Why is a citizen of a fake country a moderator here?

 

[Salt USMC]

For anyone watching the Floyd protest videos and wondering why fireworks/firecrackers are being tossed at the police... turns out the 'protestors' were/are tossing bottle of gasoline at riot cops and NG guys in formation. The useful idiots doing this were trying to set our guys on fire, but failed.

If anyone remembers what happened to that captured Jordanian pilot... that's what the these people were trying to do.

The people who set this in motion need to be treated like enemy HVT's. Same with their spies and collaborators. Any foreign assets associated with this movement should be dealt with as well. These people are enemy combatants and traitors.

Add on: Any politicians giving top cover for these protestors are part of the problem as well.

Got a link to that?

 

[BlackSmokeRisinG]

I first heard about the police attacking protesters on Joe Rogan but haven't watched any of the clips until today. The cops aren't doing themselves any favors not disciplining the police seen in these videos.

I understand in a lot of cases they're enforcing curfews or clearing crowds, but doesn't the 1st Amendment still cover the ability of Press to cover these events?


Police Attacking Press in Several Cities

 

[Ooh-Rah]

- self deleted post -

You were wise to self-delete that comment about a staff member doing his job.

But like everything on the internet, just because you delete it does not mean it’s really gone.

 

[SaintKP]

Only thing I can find* is a LEO being set on fire in Mexico. Nothing CONUS side, nothing about protestors dousing LE with gasoline. Nothing.

*I didn't go so far as to look on Breitbart, Info Wars or some small ass conservative podcast that's flying under the Google radar.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

I first heard about the police attacking protesters on Joe Rogan but haven't watched any of the clips until today. The cops aren't doing themselves any favors not disciplining the police seen in these videos.

I understand in a lot of cases they're enforcing curfews or clearing crowds, but doesn't the 1st Amendment still cover the ability of Press to cover these events?


Police Attacking Press in Several Cities

I feel like there is much more to this story. Lotta variables at play. Press being used as cover by some of the rioters. Rioter scouts cosplaying as press to gather data. In one case a camera crew was sitting right on a rioter supply cache. Not clearing the area, etc.

Get the feeling these press people don't know what the heck they're doing or are actively impeding police forces out there. Can't just stand around with a camera and expect people to move past you. Like it or not you're gonna get involved in the melee. Rioters were tossing rocks at the press in MN... don't get why the press acts like they're immune.

 

[Steve1839]

Seattle continuing to get really dumb.

Seattle schools chief, School Board announce intention to suspend partnership with police

Denver is doing the same thing....

 

[Florida173]

Only thing I can find* is a LEO being set on fire in Mexico. Nothing CONUS side, nothing about protestors dousing LE with gasoline. Nothing.

*I didn't go so far as to look on Breitbart, Info Wars or some small ass conservative podcast that's flying under the Google radar.

There's probably better ways to communicate an opposing opinion.

It's a tactic for black bloc. When i worked the RNC in Tampa, we received a brief from DHS regarding it. We also found that when code enforcement identified a safe house being used by an Occupy group, there were fireworks and accelerants in jars in backpacks.


Edit: a few seconds of searching. granted, a lot of this might just be your common molotov. We already know a couple of ANTIFA folks are indicted on throwing them at police.

Deputy Commissioner for Intelligence and Counterterrorism John Miller said there is a high level of confidence within the NYPD that these unnamed groups had organized scouts, medics, and supply routes of rocks, bottles and accelerants for breakaway groups to commit vandalism and violence. There are strong indicators they planned for violence in advance using at times encrypted communications, he said.

NYPD’s Terrorism Official Says Unnamed Groups Planned Protest Violence in Advance

 

[Ooh-Rah]

For anyone watching the Floyd protest videos and wondering why fireworks/firecrackers are being tossed at the police... turns out the 'protestors' were/are tossing bottle of gasoline at riot cops and NG guys in formation. The useful idiots doing this were trying to set our guys on fire, but failed.

If anyone remembers what happened to that captured Jordanian pilot... that's what the these people were trying to do.

Got a link to that?

Dude, as Salt said, "got a link to that"?

Living here in MN I literally had 4 separate monitors going with YouTube livefeeds throughout that whole weekend. Not mainstream shit, but the YouTube kids who embedded themselves in these groups, to include Unicorn Riot.

I saw nothing even remotely close to what you are describing, so again...got a link to that?

This site takes a lot of pride in the fact that we try ensure that 'reported news' is backed up; not just rhetoric. Sometimes your stuff slips by because I/we have literally no idea what you are even talking about.

For the record, I/we are not 'suppressing your speech' but you need to be better about posting links to the ideas you post 'as fact'; otherwise you will be called on for it.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Dude, as Salt said, "got a link to that"?

Living here in MN I literally had 4 separate monitors going with YouTube livefeeds throughout that whole weekend. Not mainstream shit, but the YouTube kids who embedded themselves in these groups, to include Unicorn Riot.

I saw nothing even remotely close to what you are describing, so again...got a link to that?

This site takes a lot of pride in the fact that we try ensure that 'reported news' is backed up; not just rhetoric. Sometimes your stuff slips by because I/we have literally no idea what you are even talking about.

For the record, I/we are not 'suppressing your speech' but you need to be better about posting links to the ideas you post 'as fact'; otherwise you will be called on for it.

So... I do have a source. I've got an archived post from a NG guy who dealt with the protests on the West Coast, guy was venting. The post was scrubbed, but not before people saved copies. Reason I'm not posting it is I have no way or knowledge on how to scrub that persons identifiable info.

- Other things mentioned was rioters bringing concrete projectiles in backpacks and bodily fluids being used as projectiles as well.

As for the useful idiots trying to set our guys on fire... other instances have been posted on the site. These peoples aim to divide, conquer, and destroy. The optics of a burned NG guy or police officer is an ideological victory for them. It serves to divide the populace and demonstrate weakness on the local govt's part. (Escalation is the name of the game.)

Regarding not responding to posts, I'm guilty of having a few people here on ignore.

 

[BlackSmokeRisinG]

I feel like there is much more to this story. Lotta variables at play. Press being used as cover by some of the rioters. Rioter scouts cosplaying as press to gather data. In one case a camera crew was sitting right on a rioter supply cache. Not clearing the area, etc.

Get the feeling these press people don't know what the heck they're doing or are actively impeding police forces out there. Can't just stand around with a camera and expect people to move past you. Like it or not you're gonna get involved in the melee. Rioters were tossing rocks at the press in MN... don't get why the press acts like they're immune.

A couple of those anecdotes might explain some of.the violence against the press, but of you go on YT and watch a few videos, you'll see several instances of cops shooting clearly marked press with camera crew with pepper balls from less than 10m away, police in full gear spraying a camera through a fence when the majority of the crowd is dispersed and on the other side, a proned out reporter holding up his press ID getting Maced in the middle of a gas station parking lot, the CNN crew getting busted on live TV, etc.

I don't even like Vice and CNN et. al , but I like tyranical behavior way less.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

A couple of those anecdotes might explain some of.the violence against the press, but of you go on YT and watch a few videos, you'll see several instances of cops shooting clearly marked press with camera crew with pepper balls from less than 10m away, police in full gear spraying a camera through a fence when the majority of the crowd is dispersed and on the other side, a proned out reporter holding up his press ID getting Maced in the middle of a gas station parking lot, the CNN crew getting busted on live TV, etc.

I don't even like Vice and CNN et. al , but I like tyranical behavior way less.

I totally get what you're saying and there are some bad examples out there. Thing is we're not seeing the whole picture... the camera only captures a narrow FOV, it doesn't capture all the angles. Were not seeing what led up to that event or the abuse those officers suffered up to that point.

Basically we're seeing are the worst examples of police interaction.

We gotta remember the press has an ideological agenda they're pushing. Like I mentioned in the Floyd thread divide, conquer, and destroy. These tactics aren't anything new... the technology might be, but the behavior and thought process's are decades old.

 

[Deleted member 2517]

So... I do have a source. I've got an archived post from a NG guy who dealt with the protests on the West Coast, guy was venting. The post was scrubbed, but not before people saved copies. Reason I'm not posting it is I have no way or knowledge on how to scrub that persons identifiable info.

Regarding not responding to posts, I'm guilty of having a few people here on ignore.

1. “I could tell you but it’s above your clearance...” That’s what this post sounds like. You make an outlandish claim, you can’t back it up, so create a back story as to why you can’t reference your “source.”

2. In reference to the bold- why ignore posts? You don’t want to hear dissenting opinions? Hm... sounds like that “echo chamber” referenced a few days ago...

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Reason I'm not posting it is I have no way or knowledge on how to scrub that persons identifiable info.

LOL - Come on man. Whether or not I agree with your belief's, you have shown yourself to be a pretty intelligent dude. There is no way you can convince me that you are not capable of blocking out someone's name on a screenshot.

 

[SaintKP]

1. “I could tell you but it’s above your clearance...” That’s what this post sounds like. You make an outlandish claim, you can’t back it up, so create a back story as to why you can’t reference your “source.”

2. In reference to the bold- why ignore posts? You don’t want to hear dissenting opinions? Hm... sounds like that “echo chamber” referenced a few days ago...

You're probably on ignore so you're just yelling into the void.

 

[ThunderHorse]

A couple of those anecdotes might explain some of.the violence against the press, but of you go on YT and watch a few videos, you'll see several instances of cops shooting clearly marked press with camera crew with pepper balls from less than 10m away, police in full gear spraying a camera through a fence when the majority of the crowd is dispersed and on the other side, a proned out reporter holding up his press ID getting Maced in the middle of a gas station parking lot, the CNN crew getting busted on live TV, etc.

I don't even like Vice and CNN et. al , but I like tyranical behavior way less.

In several of those they get told to move, they don't. Obviously detaining them is probably better, which also happened, and then they scream: I got arrested.

The Press are full of liars and propagandists. Literally watch CNN's coverage of Seattle.

 

[SaintKP]

There's probably better ways to communicate an opposing opinion.

It's a tactic for black bloc. When i worked the RNC in Tampa, we received a brief from DHS regarding it. We also found that when code enforcement identified a safe house being used by an Occupy group, there were fireworks and accelerants in jars in backpacks.


Edit: a few seconds of searching. granted, a lot of this might just be your common molotov. We already know a couple of ANTIFA folks are indicted on throwing them at police.



NYPD’s Terrorism Official Says Unnamed Groups Planned Protest Violence in Advance

When I get labeled as a Marxist and Un-American or 'Useful Idiot' because I don't buy into the white picket fenced American Dream or agree with a political standpoint. I feel my obligation to communicate opposing opinions effectively is moot. Either call it as it is or don't call it at all.

In regards to the link, thank you for finding it because I honestly couldn't but that may have had to do more with the keywords I was using.

 

[Deleted member 2517]

You're probably on ignore so you're just yelling into the void.