National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

[Ooh-Rah]

Fact: This took place in New Mexico during a protest on Monday 06.16.20

Everything else is hearsay, finger-pointing, and speculation.

His story: the 'good guys' are going with is he was just there exercising his rights to carry a long-gun when he was threatened and attacked. He was hit with the skateboard and felt threatened for his life.

Their story: He and a group of armed men were at the protest for no reason but to intimidate the protesters and were instigating a confrontation.

It looks like he was wearing a plate carrier and his shot patterns make me think he knew how to fire that rifle.

NSFW - Language and gun shots

https://www.facebook.com/1580860602174626/posts/2585174861743190

 

[AWP]

You run at someone swinging a weapon, saying "we're going to fucking kill you", and don't expect to be shot?

 

[Devildoc]

I saw that earlier today, regardless if right or wrong (different perspective and all), when he committed, he committed.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

when he committed, he committed.

I’ve been (was before the pandemic) getting tactical pistol training and that’s no shit. The muscle memory exercises are, if you have to draw, you draw and commit, assess and evaluate, then reholster.

That church shooting a few months ago really made me think about how and why I carry.

 

[Blizzard]

Fact: This took place in New Mexico during a protest on Monday 06.16.20

Everything else is hearsay, finger-pointing, and speculation.

His story: the 'good guys' are going with is he was just there exercising his rights to carry a long-gun when he was threatened and attacked. He was hit with the skateboard and felt threatened for his life.

Their story: He and a group of armed men were at the protest for no reason but to intimidate the protesters and were instigating a confrontation.

It looks like he was wearing a plate carrier and his shot patterns make me think he knew how to fire that rifle.

NSFW - Language and gun shots

https://www.facebook.com/1580860602174626/posts/2585174861743190

Who was wearing a plate carrier and shooting a rifle? I believe this is a different video/angle of the same incident Thunderhorse posted earlier.

The guy in the blue shirt doesn't have a carrier visible to me and shot the other guy using a pistol. Maybe I'm missing something?

 

[Florida173]

Fact: This took place in New Mexico during a protest on Monday 06.16.20

Everything else is hearsay, finger-pointing, and speculation.

His story: the 'good guys' are going with is he was just there exercising his rights to carry a long-gun when he was threatened and attacked. He was hit with the skateboard and felt threatened for his life.

Their story: He and a group of armed men were at the protest for no reason but to intimidate the protesters and were instigating a confrontation.

It looks like he was wearing a plate carrier and his shot patterns make me think he knew how to fire that rifle.

NSFW - Language and gun shots

https://www.facebook.com/1580860602174626/posts/2585174861743190

Plenty of video for people to form an educated opinion. Showing him walking away from the altercation, and then being chased down. I can't imagine any part of what happened prior to him being chased down being in any way relevant to his actions. You can hear what the intent of running him down was and one voice is loud and clear "We're going to fucking kill you."

 

[Ooh-Rah]

"We're going to fucking kill you."

Yeah, I heard that too. Was not sure if it was 'them' or if it was him shouting a warning.

 

[Florida173]

Who was wearing a plate carrier and shooting a rifle? I believe this is a different video/angle of the same incident Thunderhorse posted earlier.

The guy in the blue shirt doesn't have a carrier visible to me and shot the other guy with a pistol. Maybe I'm missing something?

Image of what could be his plate carrier.. and a guy with a knife?

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Thanks @Florida173 - that's a much better still image than what I saw from trying to freeze the video.

 

[Blizzard]

Image of what could be his plate carrier.. and a guy with a knife?

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Gotcha. In the other video of the incident, which @ThunderHorse posted, you can clearly see that brown thing is a towel/scarf/shemagh or something. It's not a plate carrier...or if it is, it's the worse design ever.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Gotcha. In the other video of the incident, which @ThunderHorse posted, you can clearly see that brown thing is a towel/scarf/shemagh or something. It's not a plate carrier...or if it is, it's the worse design ever.

I missed Thunder's video....I'll have to go back and look. That's why I made a point of saying:

Fact: This took place in New Mexico during a protest on Monday 06.16.20
Everything else is hearsay, finger-pointing, and speculation.

 

[Florida173]

meh.. looks like it's just a shirt, not a plate carrier

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1272774976043487234/pu/vid/592x1280/WjxROaLm76GDaMb9.mp4

 

[AWP]

Plate carrier, towel, Bible, crossword puzzle...if you run at someone saying that you'll fucking kill them then expect to get shot, stabbed, nuked from orbit.

 

[Blizzard]

I missed Thunder's video....I'll have to go back and look. That's why I made a point of saying:

No worries. Just clarifying for myself as well.

 

[Blizzard]

meh.. looks like it's just a shirt, not a plate carrier

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1272774976043487234/pu/vid/592x1280/WjxROaLm76GDaMb9.mp4

OK, what's with the fucking whistle? Is that a signal for everyone to go to the safe place?! For fucks sake.

I could never be that guy and go to one of these things while carrying - I'd eat my own bullet.

 

[Florida173]

OK, what's with the fucking whistle? Is that a signal for everyone to go to the safe place?! For fucks sake.

I could never be that guy and go to one of these things while carrying - I'd eat my own bullet.

 

[CQB]

...then of course there’s John Edward Taylor.

Guardian facing calls to "shut down" after siding against Abraham Lincoln

 

[ThunderHorse]

Fact: This took place in New Mexico during a protest on Monday 06.16.20

Everything else is hearsay, finger-pointing, and speculation.

His story: the 'good guys' are going with is he was just there exercising his rights to carry a long-gun when he was threatened and attacked. He was hit with the skateboard and felt threatened for his life.

Their story: He and a group of armed men were at the protest for no reason but to intimidate the protesters and were instigating a confrontation.

It looks like he was wearing a plate carrier and his shot patterns make me think he knew how to fire that rifle.

NSFW - Language and gun shots

https://www.facebook.com/1580860602174626/posts/2585174861743190

I'm not sure how you see a plate carrier and long gun in that. Was able to back to the thread I found the video on and here are some stills. That looks like a Shemagh/Kiffiyah, and there is no long gun.

 

[Deleted member 2517]

Opinion:

I’ve been generally understanding regarding the recent protests, the anger, trying to right history... now they’re losing me. Taking Lincoln’s statue down? Because you don’t like how the statue looks? This is just like “me too”- well intentioned, started for the right reasons... then the extremists come out. Give society an inch, they take a mile. America has become one big allegory for “If You Give a Moose a Muffin.”

I think I need to ETS and move to Alaska at this point.

 

[Kraut783]

The former Black Panther member answers were a surprise.

EDIT: this was in reference to the video "Ami visited CHAZ, now CHOP"