National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

[ThunderHorse]

Why do some of y'all treat the Boogaloo groups with kids gloves?

Calling things Boogaloo groups when they're in fact just extremist groups that the left has chosen to label as such is probably why you're getting push back. The left also doesn't want to address to violent fringes of their side...hello Antifa. Armed wings of BLM. Right Wing extremists aren't getting a pass by us. But labeling them as "boogaloo groups" isn't really that accurate because the "boogaloo" is a 4 Chan joke.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

we'll see basically ever act of violence in this thread attributed to BLM/ANTIFA, even if there isn't a good link.

I don't know if that is exactly true 'every act of violence', and I think in recent weeks especially, most members are getting better about linking or backing up their accusations or claims. That said, there is nothing wrong with calling someone out for more clarification, (like you recently did with @RackMaster ).

If you (or any member) thinks a member is not being held to the same standard as everyone else and you don't want to publicly call it out, "report it". Someone from the staff will review and if necessary, call attention to it. No harm no foul.

 

[Cookie_]

Calling things Boogaloo groups when they're in fact just extremist groups that the left has chosen to label as such is probably why you're getting push back. The left also doesn't want to address to violent fringes of their side...hello Antifa. Armed wings of BLM. Right Wing extremists aren't getting a pass by us. But labeling them as "boogaloo groups" isn't really that accurate because the "boogaloo" is a 4 Chan joke.

Oh I fully understand it started as a dumb 4chan thing.

But when the dude is scrawling "Boog" in blood on the blood of a car, its not a joke anymore.

Man accused in deputy ambush scrawled extremist 'Boogaloo' phrases in blood

ETA: This is why I bring up "Boogaloo" as a movement, not a specific group. A whole bunch of nationalist/sovereign citizens/anarchist types fall under that.

 

[Blizzard]

Go fuck yourself, Minneapolis.

Minneapolis Park Board Opens Parks As Refuge For People Experiencing Homelessness

I was just going to post the same. I'm just about ready to pull the plug.

I'm headed out to my place in MT next week. I'm going to start looking a little harder at making it permanent.

 

[RackMaster]

BLM in Canada calling for defunding of the police.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sask...on-black-lives-matter-defund-police-1.5613280

 

[ThunderHorse]

Oh I fully understand it started as a dumb 4chan thing.

But when the dude is scrawling "Boog" in blood on the blood of a car, its not a joke anymore.

Man accused in deputy ambush scrawled extremist 'Boogaloo' phrases in blood

ETA: This is why I bring up "Boogaloo" as a movement, not a specific group. A whole bunch of nationalist/sovereign citizens/anarchist types fall under that.

In the same sense that when BLM is spray painted on buildings that have been torched?

I'm on the "they're all bad train". Because they all are.

ETA: Who has burnt down our cities? That's probably why you're getting pushback.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Okay dead serious question, I am trying to understand....

Is Boogaloo an extremist version of the right, the same way Antifa is an extremist version of the left?

If that is the case, has Trump declared Boogaloo a terrorist organization the same way he has Antifa?

Or is that part of the problem, we 'righties' are quick to blame Antifa for everything, but we won't acknowledge that Boogaloo even exists?

To add, the term Boog or Boogaloo is gay as fuck.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

We lost track of this thread for a while, but put your BLM/ANTIFA/BOOG "police" stuff in here. I'll work on moving the rest of the posts back here.

 

[Blizzard]

I'm with others...I don't understand this whole Boogaloo thing, let alone what it has to do with Breakin' 2 Electric Boogaloo?!

 

[RackMaster]

Okay dead serious question, I am trying to understand....

Is Boogaloo an extremist version of the right, the same way Antifa is an extremist version of the left?

If that is the case, has Trump declared Boogaloo a terrorist organization the same way he has Antifa?

Or is that part of the problem, we 'righties' are quick to blame Antifa for everything, but we won't acknowledge that Boogaloo even exists?

To add, the term Boog or Boogaloo is gay as fuck.

This is where the problem is. Antifa is obviously an organization. The Boogalo so far is just a loose connection to right wing extremists.

 

[RackMaster]

I honestly forgot that we made this split.

 

[BloodStripe]

So honest question; is BLM a loose movement of groups with somewhat similar goals or an organized operation?

At least in the 757 area code, they are very organized.

 

[Florida173]

It's a ridiculous question. There is a possibility that boog lua folks could be eventually viewed or associated with established groups, but the extremism is coming from fringe lone-wolf types that might have indicators on forums that the FBI will be tracking, much like a lot of others

BLM is well established

 

[Ooh-Rah]

It's a ridiculous question.

Why is it ridiculous?

Please, try to explain it to me/us?

Please know, this is not said with any sarcasm, snark, or anything else. Why is it (in your opinion) ridiculous to suggest that Antifa and Boog are analogous?

 

[Florida173]

Why is it ridiculous?

Please, try to explain it to me/us?

Please know, this is not said with any sarcasm, snark, or anything else. Why is it (in your opinion) ridiculous to suggest that Antifa and Boog are analogous?

Because if the question is in good faith, you've been ignoring pages worth of content regarding this topic in multiple threads.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Solving the problems... $500 bonus!

Every Atlanta Police Department officer to receive $500 bonus

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Because if the question is in good faith, you've been ignoring pages worth of content regarding this topic in multiple threads.

It is in good faith, but truthfully my eyes hurt after reading these political threads all day everyday. If I was not on staff here, I would ignore them all together. I read members arguing back and forth all day long about these groups. Who/what am I supposed to believe?

But okay @Florida173 , you've got my attention now. I've asked a question in good faith, you've deemed it "ridiculous" because .... I should have figured it out in the 49 pages of this thread?

Cool.

That out of the way, enlighten me/us? Just one last time?

Is Boogaloo an extremist version of the right, the same way Antifa is an extremist version of the left?

If that is the case, has Trump declared Boogaloo a terrorist organization the same way he has Antifa?

Or is that part of the problem, we 'righties' are quick to blame Antifa for everything, but we won't acknowledge that Boogaloo even exists?

 

[Kaldak]

Because if the question is in good faith, you've been ignoring pages worth of content regarding this topic in multiple threads.

That's the worst non-answer I've seen in awhile. Defend your stance with facts, or don't make these statements, please.

Cite said posts at the very least.

 

[Florida173]

But okay @Florida173 , you've got my attention now. I've asked a question in good faith, you've deemed it "ridiculous" because .... I should have figured it out in the 49 pages of this thread?

I don't blame you for not liking some of these threads. I was thinking the more than 280 posts regarding the subject since 2017 with a ton of content regarding it could help. There are some great articles from back in the day from around the world, some even critiquing them back in 2008. I love how they all share the same flags and have been well documented to be an international organization. Super active in Portland with the Rose City Antifa - Wikipedia

I believe arguments to their legitimacy of not being considered an organization is indeed ridiculous.

Regarding the boog bois or whatever they are calling themselves. Still in meme form and actions are lone-wolf as I stated before.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Regarding the boog bois or whatever they are calling themselves. Still in meme form and actions are lone-wolf as I stated before.

Okay thank you. One more....and acknowledging ahead of time that they are not an 'official' organization. Is it fair to consider those who call themselves "Boog bois" to be an extreme for of Conservatism, the same way Antifa is considered an extreme form of Liberalism?

To add - thank you for all of the links in your prior post.