National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

Blizzard said:
Princeton is pussing out...
Princeton will remove Woodrow Wilson's name from school
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So, legit question: at what point in one's life or career does the benefits outweigh any racist or bigotry behavior? For instance, if he had cured cancer they still take his name off? If he invented the light bulb, would they have taken his name off? Nathaniel Bedford Forrest, check, I get it. No problem. But some of the people, they're throwing the baby out with the bath water.
 
Devildoc said:
So, legit question: at what point in one's life or career does the benefits outweigh any racist or bigotry behavior? For instance, if he had cured cancer they still take his name off? If he invented the light bulb, would they have taken his name off? Nathaniel Bedford Forrest, check, I get it. No problem. But some of the people, they're throwing the baby out with the bath water.
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I'd like to give you answer, but I'm starting to feel like one doesn't exist, sadly.
 
Devildoc said:
So, legit question: at what point in one's life or career does the benefits outweigh any racist or bigotry behavior? For instance, if he had cured cancer they still take his name off? If he invented the light bulb, would they have taken his name off? Nathaniel Bedford Forrest, check, I get it. No problem. But some of the people, they're throwing the baby out with the bath water.
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It never ends. It will never be enough.
 
I'm sure every member on this board along with the general public would admit, at some point in life, to making some comment, direct or otherwise that could be construed as offensive.

It doesn't make everyone racist. In my opinion, a not very elegant one, is there are lists of open and avowed racism that should be targeted before statues of people like Lincoln. Groups, organizations, you name it. I'm pretty sure Lincoln and Washington are low on those lists.
 
Feds Bust Black Lives Matter Organizer for Blackmailing Local Businesses - Frontpagemag


Federal prosecutors brought extortion charges Friday against the man whose arrest this week sparked violence and destruction in the capital city.

U.S. Attorney Scott Blader filed the charges against Devonere Johnson, alleging he threatened to bash windows of downtown businesses unless employees gave him money.

Blader also alleges Johnson, 28, threatened to "shut down and destroy" another business unless Johnson and his friends were provided free food and drinks.

In one restaurant, Johnson allegedly brought a boombox indoors and refused to turn it down. When the owner told Johnson he donated money to a group supporting the Black Lives Matter campaign, Johnson asked what he had done "locally."

Ultimately, Johnson allegedly told the owner "give me money or we'll break windows," according to the criminal complaint.

Johnson entered another bar and allegedly asked for free food and drinks or else the bar would be "marked," according to the complaint.

"You don't want 600 people to come here and destroy your business and burn it down. The cops are on our side," according to the complaint, which included interviews with the bar owner about what Johnson allegedly said. "You notice that when you call them, nothing happens to us."
 
What were seeing was never about speech, history, or the morality of slavery. We're seeing the early stages of a Marxist revolt. The useful idiots in MSM, Social Media, ANTIFA, BLM, and all the other useful idiots are using race to launch an assault on our Republic.

There is no reasoning with these people. American or not they aim to rule the rest of us or crush us underneath.
 
Whatever will people do when they find out about Lincoln?

I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, [applause]-that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.
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Abraham Lincoln, Fourth Debate with Stephen Douglas, Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858 | House Divided

Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln. Volume 3.

What Abraham Lincoln Thought About Slavery
 
AWP said:
Whatever will people do when they find out about Lincoln?



Abraham Lincoln, Fourth Debate with Stephen Douglas, Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858 | House Divided

Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln. Volume 3.

What Abraham Lincoln Thought About Slavery
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People who actually read and don't refer to wiki pages would find all sorts of amazing things about their nation's favorite son, Abraham Lincoln.

How he makes the top five list of favorite or best presidents is beyond me. You talk about a president who shredded the Constitution, far worse than Roosevelt ever did, far worse than any other president. Add his views about slavery, You get yourself a guy who, yes, kept the nation together, but he sold his soul to the devil to do it.

#notmyfavoritepresident
 
Seishin said:
What president throughout history wasn't a clown in their own way.

They are all human and all have flaws. I can certainly find trash in all their lives and histories.
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That is true, but that is only part of the point. Part of it is what @Ooh-Rah mentioned, and part of it is the deification of a politician to fit your agenda. Plus, people have confirmation bias as well as very small grasp of history. There's nothing new under the sun, and every president going back to Washington had demons.
 
Devildoc said:
So, legit question: at what point in one's life or career does the benefits outweigh any racist or bigotry behavior? For instance, if he had cured cancer they still take his name off? If he invented the light bulb, would they have taken his name off? Nathaniel Bedford Forrest, check, I get it. No problem. But some of the people, they're throwing the baby out with the bath water.
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Margaret Sanger was an avowed eugenicist, and would certainly fit the mold to be called racist. However, she’s immune to being canceled. Work from there.
 
^^^I was one of them. I didn't realize Kentucky was part of the Union, I thought it was the beginning of the south.

Lincoln said if he could keep the Union without freeing one slave, he would, or if he had to free all of the slaves to do so, he would. Typical politician.

In the end, he freed the slaves.
 
 

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