National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

[Locksteady]

I want to also point out how bad "Snopes" fact checking is... Some of the more colorful statements bolded. The page reads "partly false" instead of "mostly true" like it should.

The article reeked to me of heavy bias in favor of George Floyd, if for nothing other than the tone and the wording.

But if this is the meme they are referencing:



... and it needs this many corrections to be true:

1998 10 months in prison jail armed robbery.
2002 8 months in prison jail for cocaine
2004 10 months in prison jail for cocaine
2005 10 months in prison jail for cocaine
2007 5 years in prison for armed robbery of a pregnant woman in her home
When he was killed, he was high on meth had trace amounts of methamphetamines in his blood that registered below even the legal therapeutic minimum given to treat ADHD getting ready to drive a car and possible kill your kid sitting in a parked vehicle.
Too bad the pregnant woman didn't have a gun.

... then a categorization of partly false is more than justified for it or any other meme with that many abjectly false and misleading claims attached to literally every salient point in it while presenting as fact.

 

[ThunderHorse]

It's funny that all over, not just this, but everywhere people are trying to soften language.

Well folks, generally in the US, the jail is where you go for temporary detention. And prison is where you go for more permanent detention.

 

[Hungry_Dog]

 

[Devildoc]

...post...

First, regarding your post above, on FB there was a meme that went something like this: "If COVID is that bad why aren't all the essential workers dying?" Under it was a comment that said "because we're already dead inside." It was 'censored' as 'partly false,' not even understanding it was satire/sarcasm.

Anywho, second...I have lived a life of service in which I have been surrounded by people who probably should not live, and sometimes (military) I could do something about it, and other times (paramedic, ED RN, tactical medic), I could not. Even St. Mattis opined ".... That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot." I absolutely understand @Ooh-Rah point, I also see @R.Caerbannog point. For the people who work in the tension, it can be hard to stay above it.

 

[Bypass]

 

[Locksteady]

First, regarding your post above, on FB there was a meme that went something like this: "If COVID is that bad why aren't all the essential workers dying?" Under it was a comment that said "because we're already dead inside."

That is a great one!

It was 'censored' as 'partly false,' not even understanding it was satire/sarcasm.

I did a search on that Snopes site for the meme you're talking about. If you have a link to the Snopes page, that would be really useful for context, but I don't think it's necessary to tackle your point.

So, let's assume that Snopes responded to someone asking about the truth in the premise of the joke by saying it was partly true. If Facebook chose to censor a meme (if this is what you're saying) due to this characterization by Snopes, it adds even more to the list of reasons why people are increasingly critical of that social media platform.

Anywho, second...I have lived a life of service in which I have been surrounded by people who probably should not live, and sometimes (military) I could do something about it, and other times (paramedic, ED RN, tactical medic), I could not. Even St. Mattis opined ".... That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot." I absolutely understand @Ooh-Rah point, I also see @R.Caerbannog point. For the people who work in the tension, it can be hard to stay above it.

Very well said.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Apparently with enough violence, the Democrats who run cities change their mind and adjust fire. Mayor Lightfoot now wants looters prosecuted to the full extent of the law, no catch and release, as has been going on.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1292886043595640832

Context, Looters shot a security guard last night.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1292848370537570304

In Seattle, Vandalizing a Wholefoods

https://twitter.com/x/status/1292737912862199809

 

[ThunderHorse]

Seattle PD will have to lay off 100 officers following the current budget cuts. The Command Staff of SPD also took it in the shorts on their salaries.

Seattle's first ever black woman police chief faces $100,000 pay cut thanks to Black Lives Matter

 

[Isiah6:8]

Apparently with enough violence, the Democrats who run cities change their mind and adjust fire. Mayor Lightfoot now wants looters prosecuted to the full extent of the law, no catch and release, as has been going on.

Don't hold your breath for Chicago, I'm certain it is just political jockeying. "We won't accept this" lacks the bite when it has been going on for a while. I am just growing tired of the posturing, seems like there is just too much of that these days.

The damage and destruction this morning was extensive, it was a shit show getting into the Loop this am. I am debating sending my wife and daughter to the burbs for a few days again as I did the last time the rioting happened.

 

[Devildoc]

Seattle PD will have to lay off 100 officers following the current budget cuts. The Command Staff of SPD also took it in the shorts on their salaries.

Seattle's first ever black woman police chief faces $100,000 pay cut thanks to Black Lives Matter

I know I can't be the only one to see the irony that Black Lives Matter--BLACK LIVES MATTER--created the circumstances in which the first black female police chief will now be in the 10th percentile of large city police chief salaries....

 

[Steve1839]

I know I can't be the only one to see the irony....

Nope...you're not...

 

[ThunderHorse]

I'm confused, why aren't they advocating for the disbanding of Antifa?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1292843239557537792

 

[DA SWO]

I know I can't be the only one to see the irony that Black Lives Matter--BLACK LIVES MATTER--created the circumstances in which the first black female police chief will now be in the 10th percentile of large city police chief salaries....

Making less then the white Chief who preceded her.

 

[757]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1292299567744970753

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Apparently with enough violence, the Democrats who run cities change their mind and adjust fire. Mayor Lightfoot now wants looters prosecuted to the full extent of the law, no catch and release, as has been going on.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1292886043595640832

Context, Looters shot a security guard last night.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1292848370537570304

In Seattle, Vandalizing a Wholefoods

https://twitter.com/x/status/1292737912862199809

That Chicago commie definitely lost control of the mob. Nothing like leftist mobs burning, looting, and killing, to redpill a population.

As for Seattle... didn't realize quinoa and vegan gluten-free cookies were staples for today's commie red brigades. Bezos must be kicking himself, even pandering to the mob he lost a warehouse and now a Whole Foods.

 

[Rabid Badger]

~~edited~~
1998 10 months in prison / jail armed robbery = FELONY
2002 8 months in prison / jail for cocaine = FELONY
2004 10 months in prison / jail for cocaine = FELONY
2005 10 months in prison / jail for cocaine = FELONY
2007 5 years in prison / jail for armed robbery of a woman in her home = FELONY
When he was killed, he was high on meth...(albeit -not much)

Salient enough for a new meme?

Not saying GF deserved a knee on his neck for 9min, he didn't. Chauvin with his smug shitty little "I'm better than you" grin will get what's coming to him in the courts or later on.

At least 6 hard felonies and probably many more, GF drove, -literally-, himself and his vehicle, into that situation, that day.
We're ALL paying for George Floyd's and Derek Chauvin's mistakes.

 

[Locksteady]

Salient enough for a new meme?

Sure. They shot themselves in the feet by their overcommitment to the drawing the worst possible interpretation of the events - and they didn't even need to do any of that to make a case for George Floyd's criminal reputation, much less make up entire facts to serve that purpose.

At least 6 hard felonies and probably many more, GF drove, -literally-, himself and his vehicle, into that situation, that day.
We're ALL paying for George Floyd's and Derek Chauvin's mistakes.

Indeed - such as with memes like that.

 

[BlackSmokeRisinG]

The article reeked to me of heavy bias in favor of George Floyd, if for nothing other than the tone and the wording.

But if this is the meme they are referencing:

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... and it needs this many corrections to be true:

1998 10 months in prison jail armed robbery.
2002 8 months in prison jail for cocaine
2004 10 months in prison jail for cocaine
2005 10 months in prison jail for cocaine
2007 5 years in prison for armed robbery of a pregnant woman in her home
When he was killed, he was high on meth had trace amounts of methamphetamines in his blood that registered below even the legal therapeutic minimum given to treat ADHD getting ready to drive a car and possible kill your kid sitting in a parked vehicle.
Too bad the pregnant woman didn't have a gun.

... then a categorization of partly false is more than justified for it or any other meme with that many abjectly false and misleading claims attached to literally every salient point in it while presenting as fact.

Most people who don't work around law enforcement, or have a criminal record do not differentiate between prison and jail, and the list of drugs including meth proved the guy was quite unstable. He had plenty of fentnyl and coke in him huh? Did you watch the body cam video? Clearly high as a kite.

If the woman said she was pregnant, she was probably pregnant. It's not really a qualifier for armed robbery, which he definitely was a part of.

Your post illustrates that the point is lost on some people. Partly false sounds a lot different than mostly true, which is what it should read. A dangerous druggie that was killed after freaking out on police while high as hell.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

We're ALL paying for George Floyd's and Derek Chauvin's mistakes.

I"m tempted to put this in my signature line.

 

[AWP]

@DasBoot and @Hungry_Dog, let's knock off the meme responses unless you want to also provide some context or rebuttal.