National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (and now ICE)

[AWP]

That ATF warning makes me think of a war movie where some grizzled sergeant yells "lock and load!" as the helos descend into a jungle clearing.

Cue Fortunate Son and the Roof Koreans (assuming they aren't shooting up their own communities over the last 2 weeks).

 

[Gunz]

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Video was just released…family of the victim is calling for ‘peaceful protests’. It might start that way, but as we found out in Minneapolis a few years ago, anarchists fly in, mix in with the crowd, start shit, and things get out of control real fast.

 

[Kaldak]

Why not just call for peace? Why add the protest part? That just struck me when I saw it on a ticker.

 

[Devildoc]

I saw two videos, one 1:37 of them trying to get him to the ground in him getting up and getting tased and running. Then another video much shorter of him getting the absolute shit beat out of him.

 

[AWP]

Why not just call for peace? Why add the protest part? That just struck me when I saw it on a ticker.

 

[TLDR20]

I saw two videos, one 1:37 of them trying to get him to the ground in him getting up and getting tased and running. Then another video much shorter of him getting the absolute shit beat out of him.

Yeah. The video of the cop showing up and then straight lining the dudes head up and field goal kicking it is pretty intense ass shit.

 

[Locksteady]

Yeah. The video of the cop showing up and then straight lining the dudes head up and field goal kicking it is pretty intense ass shit.

No excuse.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Part1 of a multi-post question:

I patiently await the eventual forthcoming news on whether there were prior ‘reports of abuse‘ against these 5 officers.

I patiently await the eventual forthcoming news on their pre-police history and the circumstances that brought them onto the police force.

I patiently await the eventual forthcoming news as to if any/all of the officers had a prior relationship with the deceased.

That looked personal.

 

[AWP]

Multiple head kicks, hitting the dude with a baton while restrained by the other officers, 4-5 haymakers while restrained…

Maybe I misheard but it sounded like two officers were giving conflicting commands during the initial stop. Regardless, at one point they were holding the guy down, by his hands, and telling him to put his hands behind his back.

This shit makes George Floyd look like the loser in a game of freeze tag.

I did LMAO at Pepper Spray Dude gassing everyone.

 

[Muppet]

I'm no staunch blue line supporter, I judge each cop by their own actions. I know many great cops (policemedic, my brother in law for example), worked with many as a medic, SWAT medic but I also know some fucking shit bags that need to loose their jobs/pensions.

This event was a fucking shit show. It only leads to good cops not having the support from the public because of the actions of a few. Fucking shame.

 

[Muppet]

Just watched the video. Fucking savages. Unreal. Plus, the first responders not doing a fucking thing (probably a fire dept engine crew), waiting 25 mins for a medic unit (urban EMS at its finest, since EMS is over worked with fucking nonsense, a far away medic unit is sent, happens here too). I'm presuming the 2 first responders that are involved were from engine since we don't see medics treating the guy.

Folks wonder why cops get a bad rap. This shit makes the good cops less safe, like they are at all.

I'm certainly no law enforcement expert but face punts are probably not acceptable in use of force, I presume.

 

[amlove21]

All five cops are charged, I hope they all get convicted.

The question remains- if we see what happened and the system has already started the process to punish the criminal actors, what are we protesting? What is the goal of the protest- to get more charges? Or a harsher penalty? Or stop future behavior?

 

[Muppet]

All five cops are charged, I hope they all get convicted.

The question remains- if we see what happened and the system has already started the process to punish the criminal actors, what are we protesting? What is the goal of the protest- to get more charges? Or a harsher penalty? Or stop future behavior?

Exactly. I'm all for peaceful protests for a voice but there's gotta be a reason one would think, instead of just being there to be there.

If the voice is to bring awareness to how fucked up this and other events were, great but yeah, there needs to be an end goal.

 

[Kraut783]

There is the 10% of the protesters that are there for the peaceful protest....the other 70% to 90% are there to cause issues...be it violence, property damage, theft, anti govt...etc.

 

[Muppet]

There is the 10% of the protesters that are there for the peaceful protest....the other 70% to 90% are there to cause issues...be it violence, property damage, theft, anti govt...etc.

Exactly

 

[TLDR20]

All five cops are charged, I hope they all get convicted.

The question remains- if we see what happened and the system has already started the process to punish the criminal actors, what are we protesting? What is the goal of the protest- to get more charges? Or a harsher penalty? Or stop future behavior?

I would assume, to stop future behavior, but I don’t actually know. Personally I don’t get protesting for instance in Durham, who has one of the most progressive police forces in the state. But what do I know?

 

[amlove21]

I would assume, to stop future behavior, but I don’t actually know. Personally I don’t get protesting for I stance in Durham, who has one of the most progressive police forces in the state. But what do I know.

Yeah this is what I mean. I’m 110% for protest and civil disobedience- but not just for the sake of protesting.

 

[TLDR20]

Yeah this is what I mean. I’m 110% for protest and civil disobedience- but not just for the sake of protesting.

I understand everyone’s frustrations. Really on both sides. I think people are sick of watching people get killed by police. I also think people are sick of protestors causing violence. I am both.

This is one of, if not the worst instance I have seen of police brutality.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Well this thread certainly makes for an interesting read...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1619346737080180736