New Zealand Army Fields New Camouflage Pattern

[pardus]

Multicam and MTP didn't score high enough in the testing to be adopted. Multicam was almost a done deal.

Then there is the whole "Army brand" bullshit that got brought into it.

I'd like to see the criteria for the testing.

Outside of Tekapo and Waiouru, where the hell does that pattern fit in? Sure as shit looks too light for the bush, especially on the wetcoast.

 

[Mac_NZ]

I didn't receive an e or hard copy but got to look at it.

They used urban, native bush, pines, tussock areas and shorelines.

It did not a as great as one would desire in the native bush/pines obviously but did really well in the other areas. It was a pretty comprehensive test involving computer generated algorithms, observers and a a questionnaire on the participants opinions. I was pretty septic about it at first but when I read through it I understood it. It's a massive compromise between everywhere we would operate in NZ. T

Strangely in the original NATICK studies Multicam didn't do that uber, it came out 4th IIRC overall. Desert MARPAT beat it in the desert and urban, it's mediocre in temperate woodland but really comes into its own in mountainous areas, well until it snows.

 

[pardus]

Thanks mate.

I fucking hate that they are trying to have a one cam fits all fix.
If this new cam was adopted as NZ's arid cam, it would be a great addition to the DPM, which we need for the bush.

I think the main reason Multicam is such a big hit over here is simply because it's better than ACU. I like it but again it's not a solution to everything. Nothing is.

 

[digrar]

Could be worse, you could be the RAAF looking at this...

 

[DA SWO]

I didn't receive an e or hard copy but got to look at it.

They used urban, native bush, pines, tussock areas and shorelines.

It did not a as great as one would desire in the native bush/pines obviously but did really well in the other areas. It was a pretty comprehensive test involving computer generated algorithms, observers and a a questionnaire on the participants opinions. I was pretty septic about it at first but when I read through it I understood it. It's a massive compromise between everywhere we would operate in NZ. T

Strangely in the original NATICK studies Multicam didn't do that uber, it came out 4th IIRC overall. Desert MARPAT beat it in the desert and urban, it's mediocre in temperate woodland but really comes into its own in mountainous areas, well until it snows.

It works well in New Zealand, you guys planning on a local war? (sarcasim)

How does it work where you might have to deploy?

Murphy says they will deploy to an environment where the pattern doesn't fit.

 

[Mac_NZ]

For Afghanistan etc it should be a pretty good pattern. For were we are really likely to deploy in the near future (SE Asia) not so much.

The problem is that we have been so spread out deployment wise that a 90% solution was not going to work. Also all the fighting in the last decade was in Afghanistan so its really driving the bus on equipment. Strangely though we just pulled out of there...

 

[Brooklynben]

I asked a Kiwi Vietnam vet if he wished they could've had camouflage uniforms, he said No, that soon enough they were sweating so much the OD's they were wearing had dark patches that gave a camo effect. Add web gear and shadow to the equation and its not a bad option. What's really crazy is that the civilian market has far better camouflage than we do, and it's mostly worn to go to walmart...

Dead center! Not only does OD develop it's own "shades and changes" with normal use in the field, but more importantly I found it worked particularly better at not revealing movement at night.