kaja
Verified Military
Well, it's me again with my stupid questions... you are welcome.
From time to time, I stumbled over mentions of soldiers/ officers/ guys answering phones starting IV's on themselves before some kind of Direct Action. From some nearly fantasy "tactical magazines" to some novels, but never found any article in some serious medical journal (I suck at Google BTW...).
I am really curious, if that's sound procedure in some setting, and if it's really used. I can see benefit on case when IO is not available (like few years earlier) or may not be effective (I remember some study that showed, that quite large percentage of battlefield placed FASTs was outside sternum). And of course two on different limbs would be better-Murphy is an asshole
I discussed this issue with one of our medical directors, and he saw that in use by Norwegians IIRC during operations over sea (vasoconstriction due to cold water).
I also wanted to know, if that IV catether won't get dislocated/ clogged during some activity. I started line on myself (right forehand) before military adventure race, secured it with some extra tape and after flushing it i went to start. Event lasted for 5 hours, and involved swimming with drowning victim, transport of wounded in NBC environment, shooting on flat range, paintball match, climbing, rafting and lots of running. It stayed in place and was working without issues after finish. Of course that's not relevant study/ experiment for combat use, but at least something...
So, can some of you guys share some knowledge here?
Thanks!
From time to time, I stumbled over mentions of soldiers/ officers/ guys answering phones starting IV's on themselves before some kind of Direct Action. From some nearly fantasy "tactical magazines" to some novels, but never found any article in some serious medical journal (I suck at Google BTW...).
I am really curious, if that's sound procedure in some setting, and if it's really used. I can see benefit on case when IO is not available (like few years earlier) or may not be effective (I remember some study that showed, that quite large percentage of battlefield placed FASTs was outside sternum). And of course two on different limbs would be better-Murphy is an asshole
I discussed this issue with one of our medical directors, and he saw that in use by Norwegians IIRC during operations over sea (vasoconstriction due to cold water).
I also wanted to know, if that IV catether won't get dislocated/ clogged during some activity. I started line on myself (right forehand) before military adventure race, secured it with some extra tape and after flushing it i went to start. Event lasted for 5 hours, and involved swimming with drowning victim, transport of wounded in NBC environment, shooting on flat range, paintball match, climbing, rafting and lots of running. It stayed in place and was working without issues after finish. Of course that's not relevant study/ experiment for combat use, but at least something...
So, can some of you guys share some knowledge here?
Thanks!