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Race Descriptions Removed from Crime Alerts
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No, that's affirmative action.
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To be fair, it looks like the report itself is coming from the Minneapolis Police Department. The previous article detailing the policy said that the UofM will drop race descriptions from campus crime alerts, which I imagine would cover internal emails/notices to students and staff. That probably doesn't prevent police from reporting race descriptions to the media, as we are seeing here.
Now, if this report IS coming from the university itself, that's a policy violation and a pretty hypocritical thing to do. Though I have to wonder why the school would be handling security issues occurring outside of school grounds.
I'm seeing two different stories presented here. One from the local CBS affiliate says that the MPD are looking into the matter:
HOWEVER, the Star Tribune released a slightly different version of the story: http://www.startribune.com/local/minneapolis/297282491.html
If that description came from the university cops as indicated by the Star Tribune story, then the school is very likely violating its own policy.
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Yet another source:
http://www.kare11.com/story/news/cr...us-rape-triggers-u-of-m-crime-alert/70329104/
Don't know who is the real driver of the description above (UMPD or MPD) but does anyone still truly believe that adding race to this description is not important?
"All units, be advised - shots fired - vehicle taken. Be on the lookout for a person and a vehicle - Nothing further" 
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"All units, be advised - shots fired - vehicle taken. Be on the lookout for a person and a vehicle - Nothing further"
If that was what was happening/what the rule was, then I would be rolling my eyes as well. This rule was to only stop them from using descriptions of race in their campus alert system(mostly an email alert that goes out to all faculty, students, and staff when any crime happens on campus). NOT to prevent police from using descriptions to find perps.
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Bad form on UoM's part. I understand their intent, but this is not the way to do it. As others have said, removing race from crime alerts that will go out to those most affected is not going to help.
C'mon dude. The post was meant as sarcasm, but also, an indication of just how stupid things will get if the PC nut jobs continue on.
As for the safety of all on a campus, in my book, that trumps all - including as much of a description, as possible. Hurt your feelings in the process of potentially saving lives or a life? Oh well.
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"All units, be advised - shots fired - vehicle taken. Be on the lookout for a person and a vehicle - Nothing further"
What COLOR was the vehicle??? Better yet, was it Japanese, Korean, German, or perhaps British? Xenophobia???
Relaying whether it was a motorcycle or auto would be disparaging against four-wheel modes of transportation.
It is "interesting" how race is an issue in MN but MA police can throw out the 4th Amendment when looking for a terrorist suspect. PC is only correct when it fits a political viewpoint.
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...and here we go...
http://www.startribune.com/local/minneapolis/302589281.html
Police: University of Minnesota student raped at knife-point by 2 suspects in her dorm room
The victim said she didn't know her attackers; police have no “detailed descriptions” to release.
Two young men, one armed with a knife, raped a University of Minnesota student in her dorm room, authorities said Tuesday. No arrests have been made.
The assault occurred between 12:45 and 1:30 a.m. Sunday in Sanford Hall, in the 1100 block of University Avenue SE., according to campus police. The victim, a freshman, reported the assault to U police the next day and said she did not know her attackers.
“Unfortunately, we have very limited suspect descriptions at this time,” Busse said, declining to offer any more than the student described her attackers as 18 to 21 years old.
The university said in late February that it was raising the bar on the specificity needed before suspect descriptions would be released to the public. The change in policy followed criticism that authorities sometimes release racial descriptions and little other concrete information about at-large suspects.
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I swear that I am not trying to be jaded, but with all the pub the U's announcement made about not disclosing race, the phrase : police have no “detailed descriptions” to release automatically makes the assumption the suspects are black. Stupid politically correct bullshit.
http://www.startribune.com/local/minneapolis/302589281.html
Police: University of Minnesota student raped at knife-point by 2 suspects in her dorm room
The victim said she didn't know her attackers; police have no “detailed descriptions” to release.
Two young men, one armed with a knife, raped a University of Minnesota student in her dorm room, authorities said Tuesday. No arrests have been made.
The assault occurred between 12:45 and 1:30 a.m. Sunday in Sanford Hall, in the 1100 block of University Avenue SE., according to campus police. The victim, a freshman, reported the assault to U police the next day and said she did not know her attackers.
“Unfortunately, we have very limited suspect descriptions at this time,” Busse said, declining to offer any more than the student described her attackers as 18 to 21 years old.
The university said in late February that it was raising the bar on the specificity needed before suspect descriptions would be released to the public. The change in policy followed criticism that authorities sometimes release racial descriptions and little other concrete information about at-large suspects.
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I swear that I am not trying to be jaded, but with all the pub the U's announcement made about not disclosing race, the phrase : police have no “detailed descriptions” to release automatically makes the assumption the suspects are black. Stupid politically correct bullshit.
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If you go to the U's website they didn't violate their policy which says in part,
"Crime Alerts may include the following details:
a) A description of the incident
b) Physical description of the suspect
c) A photo or composite drawing of the suspect, if available
d) Apparent connection to previous incidents, if applicable
e) Any other pertinent information relating to the crime
f) Relevant crime prevention tips"
https://police.umn.edu/crime-alerts
Putting out a description of 5' 10" medium build regardless of race is appropriate. Just offering a race alone, unless at best your offering a specific race for each incident, isn't necessarily going to be beneficial or appropriate.
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Hmmm...so I may need to rethink my thoughts around the whole "releasing the race thing" without a good description. Turns out the bitch lied. I don't use that word lightly, but in this case I think it fits.
I wish the university would come out and say the same thing, but instead they keep referring to her as a student in crisis. Give me a fucking break.
I'm guessing that sometime in the next few hours I'll be able to post a statement from the University hailing their decision not to provide a racial description as a success in not reinforcing stereotypes. I guess in this case, they would be right.
Note, I am only assuming she told the police that the men were black, I make that assumption because it seems like every time somebody falsely accuses someone of attacking them or trying to abduct them, they always point out black men.
http://www.startribune.com/local/minneapolis/303006671.html
University of Minnesota police said Thursday that the student who reported being raped by armed strangers in her dorm Sunday was “in crisis” and in need of “professional assistance.”
They no longer believe that she was the victim of an armed sexual assault, as originally reported, according to Vice President Pam Wheelock, who oversees the Police Department.
I wish the university would come out and say the same thing, but instead they keep referring to her as a student in crisis. Give me a fucking break.
I'm guessing that sometime in the next few hours I'll be able to post a statement from the University hailing their decision not to provide a racial description as a success in not reinforcing stereotypes. I guess in this case, they would be right.
Note, I am only assuming she told the police that the men were black, I make that assumption because it seems like every time somebody falsely accuses someone of attacking them or trying to abduct them, they always point out black men.
http://www.startribune.com/local/minneapolis/303006671.html
University of Minnesota police said Thursday that the student who reported being raped by armed strangers in her dorm Sunday was “in crisis” and in need of “professional assistance.”
They no longer believe that she was the victim of an armed sexual assault, as originally reported, according to Vice President Pam Wheelock, who oversees the Police Department.
