Ranger Transfer Question
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^^awesome, and thanks for the advice (of course that goes to everyone). I guess it'll come down to a couple of things, but I've also entertained the idea of just switching over and dropping to E-4 so that I could work as a member of a team before being put in charge of one. I can imagine how some soldiers of mine would feel about me being their team leader since I wasn't able to "grow up" as a Ranger.
Not that I don't have absolute confidence that I could execute my job, but it'd be nice to have some time as a member of a team and I know that I still have a lot to learn.
Not that I don't have absolute confidence that I could execute my job, but it'd be nice to have some time as a member of a team and I know that I still have a lot to learn.
I would do the tabless E-4, sharing the hardships will gain you acceptance. You will also be able to sit back and see how things are ran instead of jumping in there and getting a fire hose shoved down your throat, "learning curve". I have seen more import E-5s get the boot than any other. Usually if you don't have a SL with patience you will be fighting an uphill battle. Don't discredit salty PVTs, they have much too teach. Approach with an open mindset, listen and learn.
Good luck!
Now back to my beer pong tourney and hotties...
College is GREAT!!!
Good luck!
Now back to my beer pong tourney and hotties...
College is GREAT!!!
I do not recall posting this, it was one hell of a night. Anyways, I agree with my inebriated post. Good luck with whatever path you choose.
You have the absolute confidence that you could fully perform your job as a team leader in a special operations unit upon immediate assignment??
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I'm fully confident with the skills that I have so far learned. In your context no, of course not, which is why i'd rather go as a tabless E-4 if i go the Ranger bat route.
Just realize, and admit to yourself that regardless of where you were, Regiment is a whole different animal. Just do as your immediate leader does and you'll be fine.
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275ANGER nailed it - When I left Regiment for the other side of the fence I was disgusted to find that most of the Regular Army NCO's that I encountered couldn't carry a Ranger PFC's jock. Needless to say, they didn't like me very much.....especially after I told my worthless SSG squad leader that I would follow a Ranger private to the gates of hell before I'd follow him to the chow hall.
Anyway, the moral of the story of the story is that you're going to have to work twice as hard to earn the respect that goes along with your rank in BN. And when Ranger Psych says it's a whole different animal, he means you might as well be on another frickin planet.
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hahahaha
I got until I graduate in December to make a decision, until then I'll keep stabbing away at what exactly I want.
Let me throw you a complete curveball.....are you dead set on being a "hard guy?"
Granted there may be some clearance/access probs, but have you considered being an interrogator or CI/HUMINT? Then getting assigned in SF or other SOF units?
Maybe not so "sexy," but muy importante nonetheless - and Interrogators 'n' CI/HUMINTers with your skills are in great demand.
Just wanted to put that in your head...
Whatever you choose, as long as you think it all the way through, will be the right decision.
Good luck.
Granted there may be some clearance/access probs, but have you considered being an interrogator or CI/HUMINT? Then getting assigned in SF or other SOF units?
Maybe not so "sexy," but muy importante nonetheless - and Interrogators 'n' CI/HUMINTers with your skills are in great demand.
Just wanted to put that in your head...
Whatever you choose, as long as you think it all the way through, will be the right decision.
Good luck.
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Car hit a valid point. With the advent of the Ranger Support Bn... there is another route. With your education and experience; Humint would be an option for you.
What follows is a very blunt (?) observation. IF you were to show up at a Ranger Bn as a 11 series Sgt with\without a tab.... You become a target. The Specialist Mafia is a mainstay of the Regiment, has been and always will be. At the small unit level the Regiment CAN afford to be very damn pickey about who they let in the door. After you get in the door you are constantly and continually judged. Coming to the Regiment as junior NCO you DO NOT have the skills that a Bn raised Ranger Sergeant does. However; you will be expected to be at the same level on day 1.
If you are set on the Ranger's, coming in through the MI pipeline to the Regiment, with or without a tab is a better way to ensure that your skills, abilities, and education put to a premium use. You will be able to have a greater impact on the mission than a combat arms NCO of the same level can.
This also plays with going the SF route. But unlike the Rangers, SF don't eat their young.... very often. You would be at the age\rank target that SF was originally designed to recruit from. That is a major difference.
Go into this with your eyes wide open.... While this all falls with in the Army.... you are looking at two EXTREMELY different subcultures. The unspoken mores and customs are lightyears apart. They are two VERY different lifestyles.
What follows is a very blunt (?) observation. IF you were to show up at a Ranger Bn as a 11 series Sgt with\without a tab.... You become a target. The Specialist Mafia is a mainstay of the Regiment, has been and always will be. At the small unit level the Regiment CAN afford to be very damn pickey about who they let in the door. After you get in the door you are constantly and continually judged. Coming to the Regiment as junior NCO you DO NOT have the skills that a Bn raised Ranger Sergeant does. However; you will be expected to be at the same level on day 1.
If you are set on the Ranger's, coming in through the MI pipeline to the Regiment, with or without a tab is a better way to ensure that your skills, abilities, and education put to a premium use. You will be able to have a greater impact on the mission than a combat arms NCO of the same level can.
This also plays with going the SF route. But unlike the Rangers, SF don't eat their young.... very often. You would be at the age\rank target that SF was originally designed to recruit from. That is a major difference.
Go into this with your eyes wide open.... While this all falls with in the Army.... you are looking at two EXTREMELY different subcultures. The unspoken mores and customs are lightyears apart. They are two VERY different lifestyles.
What everybody is trying to say is that Rangers eat babies.
Agreed.
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update:
I got tryouts for 20th SF soon this next month. If I make the cut they'll put me on the training team and then I'll go to selection when they think I'm ready.
also, with my current unit I got slotted in for airborne school in January, and then pre-Ranger course (for Guard soldiers) in February...it's a two week course, if i make the cut they send me directly to Ranger School. :cool:
I got tryouts for 20th SF soon this next month. If I make the cut they'll put me on the training team and then I'll go to selection when they think I'm ready.
also, with my current unit I got slotted in for airborne school in January, and then pre-Ranger course (for Guard soldiers) in February...it's a two week course, if i make the cut they send me directly to Ranger School. :cool:
Good luck :)
College, SF, then College, then back to SF, finalize on college, now you sign up for SF..
Obviously we aren't helping you enough lol.
Obviously we aren't helping you enough lol.
Have you thought about joining the Air Force and becoming an engine mechanic
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