Soldier Arrested in Child Sex Sting

[BloodStripe]

Fort Carson soldier assigned to Special Forces arrested in child-sex sting

What is becoming of the culture at the Groups? This seems to be a yearly thing anymore. Maybe they should be disbanded since that would be the groups response if this happened to a group of book writers.

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[TLDR20]

Fort Carson soldier assigned to Special Forces arrested in child-sex sting

What is becoming of the culture at the Groups? This seems to be a yearly thing anymore. Maybe they should be disbanded since that would be the groups response if this happened to a group of book writers.

Should read “soldier assigned to SF Group”. It doesn’t say if the dude was SF or not.

As to your question? Culture change as a result of the wars ending.

 

[AWP]

What is becoming of the culture at the Groups? This seems to be a yearly thing anymore. Maybe they should be disbanded since that would be the groups response if this happened to a group of book writers.

Your defense of the Teams is admirable. Fist bump.

 

[BloodStripe]

Your defense of the Teams is admirable. Fist bump.

Don’t hate the player. Hate the game.

 

[BlackSmokeRisinG]

Don't know how these operations unfold, but I knew a dude in Army Reserves that was on Catch a Predator. He was 19 and IIRC she was supposed to be 15 or 16?

Now, I'm not condoning that sort of thing, but I'm also not stupid. Hanging a teen for screwing another teen is kind of F'ed up. A lot of our parents generation created us within those age brackets.

If it turns out to be pre-teen, pre pubescent and the guy is even older, I hope they fry him.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Should read “soldier assigned to SF Group”. It doesn’t say if the dude was SF or not.

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@BloodStripe I spent some time on the Google researching this one. While I found the dude’s name, where he was assigned, and some unsavory details about his alleged crime; I could not find any mentions that the Soldier is or was SF, just that he was assigned to that type of unit. When I did a search for him, this website (ShadowSpear) was the only one that I could find that referred to him as SF.

Until it is official the the Solder in question was SF, I’m changing the headline to better represent what has been disclosed to the public so far. If the follow up turns out that he was SF, I will change it back.

We don’t do this very often with posts from long established members as yourself; so I wanted to be above board on the ’why behind the what’.

I should add, there was no formal complaint about this thread, I made this choice myself.
@TLDR20
@ShadowSpear

 

[Gunz]

Culture change as a result of the wars ending.

I’ve been preaching that sermon since 1973.

As far as the OP, Hell ain’t hot enough for child abusers.

 

[BloodStripe]

Whether they are an 18 series or not, if they are assigned even as support for a Group, it still represents the unit as a whole.

I haven’t seen anywhere release his name. A separate incident back in February lists a different one. Since a name hasn’t been released, I’m more inclined to think he was long scrolled. Either way it’s fucked up.

Fort Carson soldier accused of distributing child porn in Colorado

Maybe just time to close Fort Carson.

 

[TLDR20]

Whether they are an 18 series or not, if they are assigned even as support for a Group, it still represents the unit as a whole.

I haven’t seen anywhere release his name. A separate incident back in February lists a different one. Since a name hasn’t been released, I’m more inclined to think he was long scrolled. Either way it’s fucked up.

Fort Carson soldier accused of distributing child porn in Colorado

Maybe just time to close Fort Carson.

Well, I disagree. You haven’t served in an SF group, but the culture between support troops and ODA SF guys is worlds different. Saying the culture is bad because some cook did something has nothing to do with the culture in the line companies and actual SF guys. Remember SF support soldiers are not specially selected or trained. They are regular soldiers, assigned like they would be to any other unit.

It is fucked up, soldiers of all stripes do all kinds of fucked up shit. I hope he wasn’t an SF guy.

 

[DA SWO]

Whether they are an 18 series or not, if they are assigned even as support for a Group, it still represents the unit as a whole.

I haven’t seen anywhere release his name. A separate incident back in February lists a different one. Since a name hasn’t been released, I’m more inclined to think he was long scrolled. Either way it’s fucked up.

Fort Carson soldier accused of distributing child porn in Colorado

Maybe just time to close Fort Carson.

Are you trying to piss folks off, or do you actually mean what you typed?

 

[Marauder06]

The first headline--Fort Carson soldier assigned to Special Forces arrested in child-sex sting," makes me immediately think that it was a support solider. I was a "soldier assigned to Special Forces." But I was never a "Special Forces soldier." There is a big difference. If it was a Team guy, I like to think it would have said "Special Forces soldier assigned to Fort Carson..."

That said, the media is not known for accuracy, especially in early reporting, and especially-especially when it comes to early reporting on issues related to SOF. I remember reading about how "US Special Forces" carried out the Bin Laden raid.

In the second story, the accused is assigned to an SFAB. But hey, SF is SF, right? double-

When I was in 5th Group, plenty of people got in trouble. But there seemed to be more trouble in the support side than the ops/tabbed side. That might be selection bias since I was the support company commander for a while and had to deal with a lot of issues on the support end. Who knows. I do know that the more selective a unit tends to be, the fewer "dirtbag" problems they tend to have. The support side of SF is (or at least was) not selective at all.

Regardless if the accused is tabbed or not, this is a pretty serious accusation. Whoever is involved, I hope justice is served.

 

[BloodStripe]

Well, I disagree. You haven’t served in an SF group, but the culture between support troops and ODA SF guys is worlds different. Saying the culture is bad because some cook did something has nothing to do with the culture in the line companies and actual SF guys. Remember SF support soldiers are not specially selected or trained. They are regular soldiers, assigned like they would be to any other unit.

It is fucked up, soldiers of all stripes do all kinds of fucked up shit. I hope he wasn’t an SF guy.

We can disagree. Ultimately if you are part of a Group, you all have the same CO.

 

[Gunz]

...the media is not known for accuracy, especially in early reporting, and especially-especially when it comes to early reporting on issues related to ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH THE MILITARY

FIFY sir.

During the Gulf War, OIF and OEF, especially in the liberal media, accuracy in reporting anything relating to ranks, units, technology, weapons systems, aircraft etc was abysmal. It was almost as if they didn't want their readers to think they'd actually spent time researching such a coarse and vulgar subject.

 

[BloodStripe]

Fort Carson Special Forces soldier charged with rape, sexual assault of child

16 counts of rape, assault of a child, and child endangerment … hopefully long enough that he never see’s daylight ever again.

MOD EDIT - To clarify (and for those keeping score) - this story is from 2020 and is different than the one referenced in the O.P.

 

[Marauder06]

He’s a Special Forces soldier but he’s also a PFC?

 

[Cookie_]

He’s a Special Forces soldier but he’s also a PFC?

He and the other private in the story were with the GSB. Forget their mos, but definitely bot tabbed guys.
My XO's boyfriend was a GSB NCO when it happened.

@BloodStripe are you just googling and looking for every "10th group crime" you can find and then posting them here?

Because I don't really see why you're posting stories from years ago as if it's new info, when the dude in question has already been court martialed and imprisoned.

 

[AWP]

Fort Carson Special Forces soldier charged with rape, sexual assault of child

16 counts of rape, assault of a child, and child endangerment … hopefully long enough that he never see’s daylight ever again.

That link is from 2020 and we're talking about it now? The link in the OP is from 2023, but you brought up some dirt from 2020?

Okay. That's one way to do it.

 

[TLDR20]

Fort Carson Special Forces soldier charged with rape, sexual assault of child

16 counts of rape, assault of a child, and child endangerment … hopefully long enough that he never see’s daylight ever again.

MOD EDIT - To clarify (and for those keeping score) - this story is from 2020 and is different than the one referenced in the O.P.

Did somebody from 10th group hurt your feelings?

 

[TLDR20]

For anyone that is looking at this thread and our Marine friends who may not understand how group works. Each group has an entire support battalion. That is where most centralized support works. Things like Riggers, Cooks, the Group Med log folks, commo stuff, motor pool. Each battalion in group also has support folks at the battalion level. GSB is an airborne(sometimes, there are legs running about) unit staffed with the same soldiers that would be in any support battalion. Again, not specially selected, and as far as I know not even commanded by an SF guy all the time. I never worked in one, and certainly never hung out over there.

In the line companies of an SF Battalion there are no privates. Zero. It is all NCO’s. Even the supply guy who is the only non tabbed guy in the company is an NCO.

 

[Cookie_]

Again, not specially selected, and as far as I know not even commanded by an SF guy all the time. I never worked in one, and certainly never hung out over there.

At least on the guard side, the fsc ("blue collar" mos types like cooks/medics/distro) never has tabbed guys except maybe the PA.

The BSC ("white collar" admin/commo/intel) is tabbed guys as the OIC/NCOIC, but everyone usually isn't.

S3 and ops staff are basically all tabbed dudes. Occasionally the S2/S4 has a couple cover down, depending on how we're looking for manning.

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The tldr of that is almost all issues I see occur within the FSC, where everybody is just a traditional soldier. Most issues are E4 and below who are on their first contract, i.e. guys that lucked out on getting group and would have done their dumb shit in a normal unit anyways.