The Jeffrey Epstein Scandal

Cookie_ said:
You're right. I meant everyone redacted is an alleged adult victim or minor (whether victim or not).
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A minor and an alleged adult victim are two completely different things. I do not believe every adult woman claiming they are a victim. Especially when they are hanging with powerful, rich men.
 
Topkick said:
Lol. Come on, man. I'm not sure what your argument is. I can't stand Clinton, but these photos do nothing but validate or sway opinion. I'd like to see people held accountable, but this ain't it.
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No real argument from me outside of people not really articulating precisely what they are actually wanting from these disclosures. For all the things that have already been released, everyone has the expectation that it will be the moment they have been waiting for and are owed for some weird reason. Accountability is not coming if it hasn't come from the most blatant folks. The only other possible reason would be that the only people to actually have anything against them would have been Epstein himself and maybe Prince Andrew. The court documents from one victim with Jeffrey putting a 14 year old victim on his lap and starting to masturbate while telling her to basically expect this from the photographers for her modeling might just be it outside of the many photos of him in bed with likely victims. Hard to get through the 1000s of photos and get anything really out of them outside of who he let into his inner circle. The Clintons were absolutely there and I'm not seeing any movement of accountability.
 
Topkick said:
Yes, but the photo of Trump was supposedly at a party with Hawaiin Tropic models.

And if they are adults in the photos, but where not when they were assaulted, why are they in the photos?
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Because it's in the evidence and it's pushed because Trump's enemies think it's some gotcha. Whether adults or not, the modeling industry is probably one of the worst for human trafficking. If this can be done to men, adult women can be victims.

Ex-Abercrombie CEO charged with running sex trafficking ring - BBC News Ex-Abercrombie CEO charged with running sex trafficking ring
 
The photos are from parties. Saying "I see nothing wrong or illegal in the photos" is semi-ignorant. We know he trafficked a lot of young and adult women. Many of his parties also had nothing illegal going on. He was clearly a power broker. But why would you expect any of the photos which are meant to be memorializations of these parties where people were having fun to include anything illegal...the worst you might see are lines of coke through dollar bills.

Just some perspective.

Florida173 said:
No real argument from me outside of people not really articulating precisely what they are actually wanting from these disclosures. For all the things that have already been released, everyone has the expectation that it will be the moment they have been waiting for and are owed for some weird reason. Accountability is not coming if it hasn't come from the most blatant folks. The only other possible reason would be that the only people to actually have anything against them would have been Epstein himself and maybe Prince Andrew. The court documents from one victim with Jeffrey putting a 14 year old victim on his lap and starting to masturbate while telling her to basically expect this from the photographers for her modeling might just be it outside of the many photos of him in bed with likely victims. Hard to get through the 1000s of photos and get anything really out of them outside of who he let into his inner circle. The Clintons were absolutely there and I'm not seeing any movement of accountability.
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The disclosures that have been interesting are the emails with various Democrats for fundraising. So far I haven't seen any with Republicans.
 
Those photos are useless without context, the 5 W's.

Anyone associating with that dude post-2008 or whenever conviction is a turd. Illegal? No. Turd? Yup.

All of the documents and video, and this is BEST they can do? Yeah, nah.

Remember when we cheered Bongino resigning over this very case, how he had integrity and wanted justice and everything? Go back a few pages, find your receipts. He announced his resignation 2 days ago. You, know, the day before the deadline to release those documents. Documents which are incomplete and heavily redacted, so there's zero proof of anything unless you want to leap to conclusions over contextless photographs.
 
Real talk: Both Bill C and Joe B are the only two I want caught and tried for being pedo's. If Trump is guilty too, eh I am willing to make a stand for no double standards to prove a point that I am in it for justice and not an ideology or in their case, TDS only and willingly able to overlook the other despicable two.
 
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