The trend setting Air Force....

I agree with DasBoot & Kraut783 one uniform for everyone except the special ops because they need a choice of night gear, but I don't think anyone will ever get the Marines to give up their version
 
I agree with DasBoot & Kraut783 one uniform for everyone except the special ops because they need a choice of night gear, but I don't think anyone will ever get the Marines to give up their version

I concur, and that's a real problem. We're wasting all kinds of money on bullshit cosplay when our country is heavily in debt, our nation is roiled by political unrest, and OH YEAH WE'RE FIGHTING LIKE 8 WARS RIGHT NOW. One military, one common ground uniform.
 
I agree with DasBoot & Kraut783 one uniform for everyone except the special ops because they need a choice of night gear, but I don't think anyone will ever get the Marines to give up their version

Hope not. The MCCUU is practical. It's the other branches that are having the identity crises. And WTF is the Navy thinking with that hideous blue camo? That's like something freaking Zumwalt would've come up with BITD.

I'm waiting for somebody to come up with fiber optic camos that mimic terrain like a chameleon.
 
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What is "night gear?"

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what can I say about all these different camo patterns that hasn't already been said about Afghanistan....
 
Hope not. The MCCUU is practical. It's the other branches that are having the identity crises. And WTF is the Navy thinking with that hideous blue camo? That's like something freaking Zumwalt would've come up with BITD.

I'm waiting for somebody to come up with fiber optic camos that mimic terrain like a chameleon.

Good initiative, poor judgment.

It was an abhorrent abortion of epic proportions. Glad they got straight.
 
Navy camo...for when the enemy is close enough at sea to spot a person so you need to blend into the giant gray ship they didn't notice...
 
Navy camo...for when the enemy is close enough at sea to spot a person so you need to blend into the giant gray ship they didn't notice...
It's actually used for when the sailor falls overboard. That way sharks won't see him if his shipmates don't spot him first.
 
What is "night gear?"
Kyptec cam like "typhoon" & other companies make a black camo. Plus they need different options for jungle & desert & Alpine. Those uniforms should be standard for all special op's units. Then the rest of the military should have one standard combat uniform that way in a fire fight the enemy isn't sure who is who & thinks there are more than there really is. Most other countries use one combat uniform & then they have different dress uniforms. Honestly I really liked the idea General Mattis had about it. Making each branch a section of the Marines & everyone going thru the same boot camp. Then it would be like they say Everyone would be able to pick up a rifle & be able to carry on the fight. One solid military force with all the same training would be a serious force to contintend with.
 
Do you think that SOF is unique in fighting at night? I worked pretty exclusively in Iraq between 1600 and 0400 and I was just victor line company infantryman. We did occasionally conduct company sized presence operations but we mostly worked in sections. Section 1 left the wire between 0400 and 0700 and Section 2 left the wire between 1600 and 1900.

I think of all reasons for a singular camouflage pattern, what you listed is not a valid reason. SOF cannot win wars themselves for a multitude of reasons, mostly because they lack the size and the fact they are designed to win wars by themselves. It's not what they are designed to do.

Big services must continue train across all environments because 20 years from today who the hell knows where we will be fighting. We also train differently across services. Marines bill themselves on being an expeditionary force. Afghanistan is the furthest inland we have ever fight.

In the early 2000's, we planned poorly. We didn't train to fight in the open desert and fight COIN. And it bit us in the ass. The best time to plant a fruit tree was 20 years ago. If you didn't plant in then, the best next time is now so that in 20 years you can bear fruit from that tree.
 
The pic looks like they were trying to show the evolution of the uniforms in the AF but only the tops? Obviously the dudes were wearing ABU pants... I don't care.

Finally the AF is moving everyone to OCP's this fall (great job guys).

If there is something I try not to care about. it's uniform regulations for the office worker in the AF. It just isn't something that's worth anyone's time.
 
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