They came, they saw, then left the Afghan war without a single mission
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I'm uber-late to the thread and thought I'd use my supernatural powers to revive it with a few observations.
"K2" is usually meant to be the old airfield in Uzbekistan but I have heard it used for Kandahar by the Air Force. Some thing with "J-bad" in that it used to refer to Jacobabad, Pakistan but now it generally refers to Jalalabad, Afghanistan.
Fuck Germany. They've taken some loses near Kunduz but they (along with some other asshole countries) won't venture south where the heaviest of fighting is occurring. Their soldiers may be rock stars but it doesn't matter as their country has turned them into groupies.
Honestly, if it isn't a US or Commonwealth nation then I don't trust it. Other nations are on the JV squad for a variety of reasons.
"K2" is usually meant to be the old airfield in Uzbekistan but I have heard it used for Kandahar by the Air Force. Some thing with "J-bad" in that it used to refer to Jacobabad, Pakistan but now it generally refers to Jalalabad, Afghanistan.
Fuck Germany. They've taken some loses near Kunduz but they (along with some other asshole countries) won't venture south where the heaviest of fighting is occurring. Their soldiers may be rock stars but it doesn't matter as their country has turned them into groupies.
Honestly, if it isn't a US or Commonwealth nation then I don't trust it. Other nations are on the JV squad for a variety of reasons.
You've got the PRT in Bamian but that's a reasonably quiet area (compared to the south and east of the country). If you're kin are anything like the Aussies I'd like to see more of them over there....even if a 203 hung under a Steyr looks odd.
I had an Air Force "dude" try to say that wasn't a Steyr. I told him I was pretty sure that it was.
"How do you know?"
"You're in the AF. You know what a B-52 looks like?"
"Of course."
"Then I'm pretty sure I know what the fuck a Steyr and a 203 looks like. I read a book once."
People.....
"How do you know?"
"You're in the AF. You know what a B-52 looks like?"
"Of course."
"Then I'm pretty sure I know what the fuck a Steyr and a 203 looks like. I read a book once."
People.....
National haven't really pledged that at all, Pardus, but they've made a few noises. They're getting my electorate vote, anyway. Brash made a comment that the Nuclear Ban would be "gone by lunchtime" last election, but it's a new leader now. We'll see.
Did you march into battle in column of route and proceed to fire volleys by ranks as well?
We live in hope that our socialist govt either grows some balls or departs and lets us do what we train our butts off for.
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Hey fuck off! lol
They got rid of Bren guns only about 4-5 years before I enlisted.
My first field ex was done wearing JGs, we wore wollen shirts, no DPM back then lol
But we did have the issue Swanis, actually I still have mine right here :cool:
It is my wish that an RNZIR unit is deployed on a combat mission, just a company attached to an Aussie Bn would be awesome and sustainable ala Vietnam.
They got rid of Bren guns only about 4-5 years before I enlisted.
My first field ex was done wearing JGs, we wore wollen shirts, no DPM back then lol
But we did have the issue Swanis, actually I still have mine right here :cool:
Did you march into battle in column of route and proceed to fire volleys by ranks as well?
We live in hope that our socialist govt either grows some balls or departs and lets us do what we train our butts off for.
It is my wish that an RNZIR unit is deployed on a combat mission, just a company attached to an Aussie Bn would be awesome and sustainable ala Vietnam.
We still had them in 5th Group my first trip to Iraq, in 2004.
I wouldn't know, I never fired one.
We had them in the JOC, for SCIF destruction I guess. I was like, "um, I'll stick with the thermite, thanks." :uhh:
We had them in the JOC, for SCIF destruction I guess. I was like, "um, I'll stick with the thermite, thanks." :uhh:
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I wouldn't know, I never fired one.
We had them in the JOC, for SCIF destruction I guess. I was like, "um, I'll stick with the thermite, thanks."
:doh:Fucking REMF.................. ah Sir :doh: lol
Weren't the Bren guns just fiddled with a little bit and redesigned to be the Gympy?
I picked one up once, mucho respecto to the guys who used to luge those around on foot!
I picked one up once, mucho respecto to the guys who used to luge those around on foot!
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No, totally different weapons system.
The bren was modified by changing it's caliber from .303 cal to 7.62x51mm.
Brits continued to use it into the 90's, it is an excellent machine gun, one of the most accurate MGs in the world, which although going against traditional MG use is actually very desirable for urban ops.
The bren aint a whole lot different in weight to other MGs, ala jimpy etc...
Great gun that should still be in service today IMO. :2c:
Ah I see. Thanks for explaining that. It's all interesting stuff IMO.
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I love this shit!
First gun Mk I Bren, .303 cal, same one NZ took to WWII (I own one here in the USA! ;) )
Second gun the 7.62x51mm L4A1 Bren, as used by the Brits in Ulster and the Falklands.
Third gun my personal favourite weapon the sexy Jimpy! :cool:
First gun Mk I Bren, .303 cal, same one NZ took to WWII (I own one here in the USA! ;) )
Second gun the 7.62x51mm L4A1 Bren, as used by the Brits in Ulster and the Falklands.
Third gun my personal favourite weapon the sexy Jimpy! :cool:
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Even though he is firing it wrong, with the wrong grip and the wrong position of his body, I think he is 100% correct in his assessment of this wonderful gun.
30 to 40 round burst in this role :cool:
One of my favourite experiences in the Army was advancing during a live fire attack, with a jimpy firing bursts into targets in front of us as we advanced, when we got to about 50m in front of the target the guns lifted and continued to fire as we walked underneath, I still get a hard thinking about the rounds cracking overhead! :cool:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEklMS0iRj8"]YouTube - Andy McNab Explains the GPMG[/ame]
30 to 40 round burst in this role :cool:
One of my favourite experiences in the Army was advancing during a live fire attack, with a jimpy firing bursts into targets in front of us as we advanced, when we got to about 50m in front of the target the guns lifted and continued to fire as we walked underneath, I still get a hard thinking about the rounds cracking overhead! :cool:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEklMS0iRj8"]YouTube - Andy McNab Explains the GPMG[/ame]
*Hijack*
I was lucky enough to fire a Bren along with a WWII Soviet Maxim with little wheels and an MG-34 at Trentham before a friend passed away and his collection was auctioned, deadly accurate but bugger all beaten zone.
I remember being cracked with an aiming post for firing an SFMG like that.
ASAFFS for SF and HMG is 50mils nowadays so if we set the gunline up 1km away we can have supporting fire in training 50m forward of assaulting troops, they get a bit twitchy about overhead fire though. Might have something to do with some asshole forgetting to put a charge bag on an 81mm HE.
We still carry one C9 and a light role Mag 58 in each section but will be changing to two MG-4 when the come into service.
Did you see the SLRs the armorers slicked up for the groupies in Astan Pardus?
Its a pity for the krauts, my Grandpop had a lot of respect for them, hated them but had a lot respect.
I was lucky enough to fire a Bren along with a WWII Soviet Maxim with little wheels and an MG-34 at Trentham before a friend passed away and his collection was auctioned, deadly accurate but bugger all beaten zone.
I remember being cracked with an aiming post for firing an SFMG like that.
ASAFFS for SF and HMG is 50mils nowadays so if we set the gunline up 1km away we can have supporting fire in training 50m forward of assaulting troops, they get a bit twitchy about overhead fire though. Might have something to do with some asshole forgetting to put a charge bag on an 81mm HE.
We still carry one C9 and a light role Mag 58 in each section but will be changing to two MG-4 when the come into service.
Did you see the SLRs the armorers slicked up for the groupies in Astan Pardus?
Its a pity for the krauts, my Grandpop had a lot of respect for them, hated them but had a lot respect.
