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Sir, what is the significance of this?
Two U.S. Navy boats with 10 sailors on board taken into Iranian custody
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Sir, what is the significance of this?
It is equivalent to stripping a Marine of their MOS. He can stay in the Navy now but he is no longer qualified to do anything and won't ever get promoted.
SWO: Surface Warfare Officer. The pin is the physical representation of his qualification. I know some pilots that are removed from flight status for a mishap but are allowed to keep their wings.
He'd have to requalify and I suspect he will get nothing but shore assignments until he leaves.
I wonder if any of the enlisted boat OIC's were punished?
To add on to what Teufel said already, this is a huge deal. As soon as a new ensign shows up on a ship, he/she is given a huge binder full of qualification paperwork. They spend months learning about everything on the ship, from how to strip and clean small arms, to how to berth the ship in port, to how the supply system works, etc. They have to collect a lot of signatures, perform a lot of tasks, and spend a lot of time studying, standing watches, and working after hours. Then they get all that done and have to take a pretty brutal murder board with ship leadership to prove they actually know about all the shit with the signatures next to it.
Honestly I don't think he can requalify. SWOs have a career track that requires them to get cumulative quals. It starts with the SWO pin, which takes forever, then on to advanced quals. There is a board to determine your quals. He's walking in with a Fail tattooed to his face.
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I know it is only speculation, but what is hisndsy-to-day life like?
Is he ostrisized by his fellow officers or would there be empathy? I cannot imagine doing what he did and then expecting to go back to work like all is well with the world.
Is he ostrisized by his fellow officers or would there be empathy? I cannot imagine doing what he did and then expecting to go back to work like all is well with the world.
I think there could possibly be an argument that if he capitulates to his captors in what seemed to be a reasonably soft captivity (all things considered) so easily, then is he really suitable for access to confidential material? What do you think?
I don't know if he lost his clearance or not. I suppose it doesn't matter at this point. He may have won the admin separation board but his career is deader than Aaron Hernandez.
Yeah he's best to move on as quickly as possible.
Surface officers are a very cliqueish group. Many of them would have done the exact same thing, because the Navy does not develop anything remotely resembling a warrior mindset outside of the NSW/SO fields. However, they will not admit that, and he will likely be treated like shit while they pretend they would have been all William Wallace about it.
I know some of his classmates from the academy. Many of them, the SWOs anyway, are very sympathetic. The EOD, NSW and Marines less so.
I imagine he has one of those Kim Kardashian jobs now where you get paid for doing nothing.
He's probably doing something that doesn't require a warfare qualification like command equal opportunity officer or SAPR. I suppose he could be an aide if the flag officer is okay with a surrender monkey in a khaki uniform.
I'm sure he's studying for the GRE and submitting applications to business schools as we speak. He's already familiar with hostile take overs.
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He could write a book about how the Naval mentality lead to his capture......or something like that.
Oh damn, he went there. Savage level: Marine Corps
