Two U.S. Navy boats with 10 sailors on board taken into Iranian custody
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Both boats happened to have simultaneous malfunctions that caused them to drift into Iranian waters -
"doh kay!"
-- and at 45 seconds in, someone picked the wrong day to wear white socks!
This collection of pics is all over Daily Mail...nice. What was that Obama was saying about us being 'The most powerful nation on earth...it's not even close'
Fucking sailors on their fucking knees. How does this happen? How the FUCK can they be so far away from support in those tiny crafts, that "this" happened?
I hate looking at these pics
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You're really not going to like this video either:I hate looking at these pics
Video shows American sailor apologizing for Iran incident - CNNPolitics.com
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I don't know what kind of operation they were on.
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You're right. Of course CNN is front and center. Kerry has his head saying something that we all heard, never happened. Oh don't ya just love the spin, and transparency:-/
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Not one person should have agreed with me, unless they caught my sarcasm.
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Yes, they were going from one country to another.
The arabs love fucking with us, hence the requirement for an official passport.
Qatar (IIRC) requires the tanker crews to process through immigration everytime they take off and land, which means they customs check twice every other day.
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Putin is laughing his ass off and the US is calling this a diplomatic success! This video just "Trump-ed" all recruiting video snippets that the IS could ever even dream of.
The Democrats just lost all foreign policy debates regarding leadership.
The Democrats just lost all foreign policy debates regarding leadership.
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Wait how is this democrats fault, you are losing me.
Those sailors getting captured/taken by another nation is politicians fault? The video of soldiers being detained makes them weak? Should we have had a strike force go rescue them? They were released in less than 24 hours, seems like a pretty good damn job getting them out to me.
As a reminder, Britain suffered a similar incident back in 2007: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/24/world/europe/24britain.html
However, in that instance British sailors were seized in contested Iran/Iraq waters, and held for nearly two weeks before being released.
Hell, it happened under similar circumstances in 2004, but those guys were released after three days, albeit without their boat.
Yesterday, we had two riverine boats stray (either accidentally or intentionally) into Iranian waters. They were detained and released within 24 hours, with all equipment and personnel. No crazy standoffs, no grand bloviating on either side. How is that not a diplomatic victory? If the worst we suffer from this is an embarrassed-looking ensign making a lame apology on TV, then fuck it, I'll take it.
However, in that instance British sailors were seized in contested Iran/Iraq waters, and held for nearly two weeks before being released.
Hell, it happened under similar circumstances in 2004, but those guys were released after three days, albeit without their boat.
Yesterday, we had two riverine boats stray (either accidentally or intentionally) into Iranian waters. They were detained and released within 24 hours, with all equipment and personnel. No crazy standoffs, no grand bloviating on either side. How is that not a diplomatic victory? If the worst we suffer from this is an embarrassed-looking ensign making a lame apology on TV, then fuck it, I'll take it.
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I have to wonder if Daily Mail give Britain similar treatment on their site then? I've always thought them to be rather pro-America - mayhaps not.
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No, DEFINITELY not their fault (unless the Nav is a Democrat) but the PERCEPTION of weakness via the DC spin machine; yep, all on the feet of the White House. The Daily Mail nailed it.
How in hell can SECSTATE call the negotiations a success? The "got lost" and had engine trouble yet were detained overnight? Why couldn't Kerry simply pick up the phone and simply say "let 'em go now or the nuke deal is dead...or you will be because the IRGC will blame you (the Iranian Foreign Minister) for not letting them get their cash." Click.
The ONLY thing that is understood n the Middle East is strength. We need to get our turkey back before our daughter is raped.
For those who claim this was a success because it could have been worse, that same logic could be used to say that 9/11 was a success in that our security measures allowed only 4 planes to be hijacked, the White House and Capitol were spared, or that some guys "on the back of pickup trucks and twisted souls plotting in apartments or garages" do not pose an existential threat to America.
Yep...clearly a victory. Good thing Bill just got a hummer vice full "blown" sexual intercourse...saved his presidency.
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Another point of view:
Former Pentagon official to ‘Post': ‘Iran humiliating US with no consequences’
“This is another case of America demonstrating that it is an unreliable ally and a harmless enemy,” he added.
“In the Middle East, when people smell weakness, they pounce,” said Rhode.
“Most amazingly from the Iranian point of view,” he continued, “is that they captured these sailors right before Obama’s State of the Union speech, and the president didn’t even mention it.”
Former Pentagon official to ‘Post': ‘Iran humiliating US with no consequences’
“This is another case of America demonstrating that it is an unreliable ally and a harmless enemy,” he added.
“In the Middle East, when people smell weakness, they pounce,” said Rhode.
“Most amazingly from the Iranian point of view,” he continued, “is that they captured these sailors right before Obama’s State of the Union speech, and the president didn’t even mention it.”
I want to know the details on how they ended up in Iranian Waters.
GPS error would concern me, alot.
GPS error would concern me, alot.
