11X option 40 Ranger contract help

[daniel_hutsell]

Is there a reason everyone disagreed with getting the contract? That is the only important part is that in the end I got the contract. And no they weren't pressuring me because I am in college, they pressured me because I scored high on the practice. The only reason I never went down to take the ASVAB is because they kept playing it out that I would have to go to MEPS too. I have never been to a recruiting station so i didn't really understand how the whole process worked and from the get go it sounded like they just wanted to talk me into something that would benefit them and not myself. I just started going in everyday asking about option 40 contracts and they finally told me I should go to MEPS and take the ASVAB the same day with no promise of a contract. So I just asked if I could take the ASVAB and they agreed and I ended up with a contract at the end of the day. I didn't want to go to MEPS and take the ASVAB before I had a contract reserved for me because I didn't want them to talk me into something I did not want, just like they were trying at the recruiting station. All I was asking on this forum was some helpful advice, I wasn't on here to tell you guys the whole process. I just wanted to talk to people that had gone through the process before
In the end the only thing that does matter is that you guys did help me get my contract because they didn't talk me into going infantry and then trying to get a ranger contract or something completely away from what I wanted to do and being stuck in something I never wanted.

 

[Ranger Psych]

I would venture on why everyone disagreed with your statements is because you hadn't shared all information with us.

Getting a contract REQUIRES taking the ASVAB. Your ability to get ANY contract hinges on actually having enough brains to qualify to even enlist, let alone be smart enough to work in SOF IF you pass everything.

Color me totally unsurprised that your recruiters didn't really care, since you hadn't done the test required to ensure you're capable of serving...

 

[daniel_hutsell]

That's the thing, I've never been to a recruiting station before. They weren't really telling me what I needed. They just wanted to get me contracted with something else. If they would have told me I could just take the ASVAB I would have but they never did. The recruiter made it sound like he could just save any contract and then I should go take get processed and tested. I just didn't know how the process worked and the recruiters were trying to take advantage of my lack of knowledge. If I knew I could just take the ASVAB whenever I would have but they made it sound as if I had to go to MEPS and take the ASVAB the same day. I'm just happy I didn't make a stupid decision and listen to their advice on just going infantry if I want it so bad lol.

 

[Totentanz]

That's the thing, I've never been to a recruiting station before. They weren't really telling me what I needed. They just wanted to get me contracted with something else. If they would have told me I could just take the ASVAB I would have but they never did. The recruiter made it sound like he could just save any contract and then I should go take get processed and tested. I just didn't know how the process worked and the recruiters were trying to take advantage of my lack of knowledge. If I knew I could just take the ASVAB whenever I would have but they made it sound as if I had to go to MEPS and take the ASVAB the same day. I'm just happy I didn't make a stupid decision and listen to their advice on just going infantry if I want it so bad lol.

That's exactly why you need to do you homework beforehand, rather than walking in blind. Dumb luck enabling you not to make a stupid decision is NOT how we operate; if that's your MO, you belong somewhere else.

What's the first SOF Imperative?

 

[x SF med]

That's the thing, I've never been to a recruiting station before. They weren't really telling me what I needed. They just wanted to get me contracted with something else. If they would have told me I could just take the ASVAB I would have but they never did. The recruiter made it sound like he could just save any contract and then I should go take get processed and tested. I just didn't know how the process worked and the recruiters were trying to take advantage of my lack of knowledge. If I knew I could just take the ASVAB whenever I would have but they made it sound as if I had to go to MEPS and take the ASVAB the same day. I'm just happy I didn't make a stupid decision and listen to their advice on just going infantry if I want it so bad lol.

the first two bolded statement s contradict each other, so you are full of shit.
The third bolded statement - again you are full of shit, we here asked if you had gone to take the ASVAB and what your scores were.
The fourth bolded statement - you did not take the initiative to look into anything, and are blaming the recruiter for doing his job... filling the open slots in the Army.

I so want to hear if you make it through Basic, BAC and get to RASP... your attitude will ruin you. But I guess that too will be somebody else's fault for not walking you through it like a pre-schooler. You are in college, you are supposed to be educated and inquisitive - the fail is all yours, suck it the fuck up buttercup.

You have done nothing but argue and bitch since your intro... take some personal responsibility for your lack of preparation, ignorance implies choice.

 

[AWP]

Is there a reason everyone disagreed with getting the contract?

...they finally told me I should go to MEPS and take the ASVAB the same day with no promise of a contract.

I won't speak for the others, so:
1. Telling us that bit about taking the ASVAB at MEPS would be a red flag to us. We could have told you from the beginning to make sure you have the ASVAB or else they couldn't give you a contract. You weren't forthcoming with all of the details. You know the ASVAB is a major portion of the enlistment process, yet you didn't mention it to us?
2. Your attitude of "I have this and that's all I care about" is arrogant and self-serving. SOF has a major problem with an "I've got mine" mentality and that's exactly what your post conveyed.

This would be a non-event with a better explanation in your first post and some humility in your second.

 

[daniel_hutsell]

the first two bolded statement s contradict each other, so you are full of shit.
The third bolded statement - again you are full of shit, we here asked if you had gone to take the ASVAB and what your scores were.
The fourth bolded statement - you did not take the initiative to look into anything, and are blaming the recruiter for doing his job... filling the open slots in the Army.

I so want to hear if you make it through Basic, BAC and get to RASP... your attitude will ruin you. But I guess that too will be somebody else's fault for not walking you through it like a pre-schooler. You are in college, you are supposed to be educated and inquisitive - the fail is all yours, suck it the fuck up buttercup.

You have done nothing but argue and bitch since your intro... take some personal responsibility for your lack of preparation, ignorance implies choice.

This thread was just to answer questions I had ? It was never meant to turn into an argument. You saying I'm bullshitting is ridiculous. I'm not bitching about anything, this all happened a month ago, and thanks for being the judge on if I get through training. My pitiful bitching attitude will be my downfall. You're a magical man for being able to know someone through an Internet thread.

 

[daniel_hutsell]

I won't speak for the others, so:
1. Telling us that bit about taking the ASVAB at MEPS would be a red flag to us. We could have told you from the beginning to make sure you have the ASVAB or else they couldn't give you a contract. You weren't forthcoming with all of the details. You know the ASVAB is a major portion of the enlistment process, yet you didn't mention it to us?
2. Your attitude of "I have this and that's all I care about" is arrogant and self-serving. SOF has a major problem with an "I've got mine" mentality and that's exactly what your post conveyed.

This would be a non-event with a better explanation in your first post and some humility in your second.

You guys helped me a lot! I got info from here and other sites that helped me not get into something ignorantly that a stupid 18 year old could have easily done.

 

[AWP]

thanks for being the judge on if I get through training. My pitiful bitching attitude will be my downfall. You're a magical man for being able to know someone through an Internet thread.

"Act like one and you're treated like one." I like to remind people of that because their behavior usually determines how they are perceived. "Perception is reality" is another favorite of mine because what we see is what we believe.

Your snipe at x SF Med would carry some juice if it wasn't so patently false. Throughout this board's history not ONE person who was banned or told they would fail has returned. Not one of them returned with a "hahahaha fuck you" post to prove us wrong. Maybe some of them made it, but I doubt it. We were able to check up on a few and their success rate was zero. If you manage to pass RASP much less survive a year in batt you'll have utterly crushed the odds and history.

...and some humility in your second.

...get into something ignorantly that a stupid 18 year old could have easily done.

Humility is a trait you'll need in the military, SOF or not. Humility will save you from a thrashing or twenty and humility will help you learn. The "unknown unknowns" out there can chew you up, especially if you think you have the answers. The latter can actually do this in life. As a college graduate I can say that people coast through school and obtain a shingle; thinking and learning aren't pre-reqs for a 4-year degree.

I don't know what your problem is (this is a "known unknown") and I won't speculate. As someone's who's twice your age I can confidently state that unless you land in a position of power or wealth, life will be unkind to you.

Do with this what you will.

 

[policemedic]

Situational awareness is very important in the military and you don't seem to have any. Did you consider that there are Ranger cadre and active/former members of the Regiment here who almost certainly have taken note of you so that they can ensure you receive special attention throughout your pipeline?

It's been said many times, but it bears repeating. Your reputation starts here, no matter where you end up in the military. What kind of reputation do you think you've garnered so far?

 

[x SF med]

This thread was just to answer questions I had ?

Is this a question or a statement? You made pronouncements, you did not ask questions.

It was never meant to turn into an argument.

I beg to differ, the tone of all posts since your intro have be patently argumentative.

You saying I'm bullshitting is ridiculous. I'm not bitching about anything,

Um, I said you were full of bullshit, and you bitch constantly - especially about the failings of your recruiters.

this all happened a month ago, and thanks for being the judge on if I get through training.

part one - failure to inform us of the time line is a failure on your part, not ours. My record for being able to tell if individuals are going to thrive or die in the SOF world after their introductions on this board is in the very high 9's... and I might have a clue about the rigors, demand and personalities that are part of the make up of SOF soldiers. There are a few here who are now friends/brothers that I helped mentor in their journeys...

My pitiful bitching attitude will be my downfall.

Yes, especially with your sense of entitlement and superiority... You are not the first, nor will you be the last individual to enlist for an SOF contract with a degree or multiple tens of hours of college

You're a magical man for being able to know someone through an Internet thread.

Years of practice here, and in the military... you don't know what you don't know... but you proved what you don't have in your posts, whether you believe that or not.

If you were to take the commentary as an honest critical assessment of your standing, you might be able to change our views. Instead you take it as attacks with no purpose - which is not true. Reassess your part in this community - we are not her to serve you like hired help. We'll guide if you seem willing to listen and act like you respect what we have to say, we who choose to mentor, or moderate or both on here, do it to strengthen our communities - here on SS, and our military brotherhood. If you do enlist you may truly understand one day.

 

[Centermass]

This thread was just to answer questions I had ? It was never meant to turn into an argument. You saying I'm bullshitting is ridiculous. I'm not bitching about anything, this all happened a month ago, and thanks for being the judge on if I get through training. My pitiful bitching attitude will be my downfall. You're a magical man for being able to know someone through an Internet thread.

After first giving you some advice and guidance initially, as to your situation, I've sat back and watched you dig yourself a hole, that is getting deeper by the minute.

You're now coming off as the type, who goes into a bar he's never been in, with a chip on his shoulder, and going to pick a fight with no one he knows. Not exactly the smartest way to go through life or starting off on the journey of a lifetime.

You know what qualifies most of us to make pretty accurate assessments about those who show up wanting the brass ring? We've been here for a while in addition to walking the walk - something you've never done or have any concept or clue about.

And you're about to become "That guy."

My suggestion? Take a step back. Stop posting and start reading. Read more, post less. Learn by soaking up as much as you can and translate what you learn by doing it in the real world, on your own, without any supervision, but executing all of it as if you had someone looking over your shoulder, 24/7.

Gain some humility and a modicum of modesty instead of becoming retaliatory and coming off like some cocky young kid. Bottom line is you haven't done anything yet, been anywhere and have 0 experience in our world. Want to get there one day? Make an adjustment combat quick and just maybe, you can redeem yourself.

I for one, will be watching and so will others.

 

[Marauder06]

Is there a reason everyone disagreed with getting the contract? ...

I "disagreed" that post the first time around, but after reading your asinine responses to the answers to a question you yourself asked, I'm going to go back and "hate" it. And probably all the rest of your posts, too.

You're not going to make it in SOF.

 

[AWP]

I like the post count of this thread and think we're at "peak post." Since you should go out on top we're just gonna' go ahead and lock it down.