About Honesty.

[StriveForPerfection]

I asked for your honest opinions and I received them, it's what I wanted. I know my integrity is strong, but my lifelong friends (a 12b, 35M, and Ranger) strongly recommended keeping my mouth shut. I felt uneasy about it so I came to you guys who have more experience for advice.

Sure, I may not be positive in what specific job I want in the military, but I know I'll fully commit to whatever I choose. The question is... how will future employers like the State Department look at it? Does not disclosing an injury mean you'll do whatever it takes to get the job done, or does it mean you're a bullshitter? Depends on the opinion of the observer. The DoD may think it means you'll push small things aside in order reach bigger objectives, or you're untrustworthy.

Whatever I choose, I understand its completely my decision and I only have myself to rely on.

 

[Marauder06]

I asked for your honest opinions and I received them, it's what I wanted. I know my integrity is strong, but my lifelong friends (a 12b, 35M, and Ranger) strongly recommended keeping my mouth shut. I felt uneasy about it so I came to you guys who have more experience for advice.

Sure, I may not be positive in what specific job I want in the military, but I know I'll fully commit to whatever I choose. The question is... how will future employers like the State Department look at it? Does not disclosing an injury mean you'll do whatever it takes to get the job done, or does it mean you're a bullshitter? Depends on the opinion of the observer. The DoD may think it means you'll push small things aside in order reach bigger objectives, or you're untrustworthy.

Whatever I choose, I understand its completely my decision and I only have myself to rely on.

If you lie, it means you're a liar. You're not trustworthy and you put your personal desires above your own integrity and the good of the organization.

 

[compforce]

Integrity is the only thing you have which only you can take away - Me (circa 1992 signature line)

 

[DocCallahan]

I will say this. It is easy for those who got a green marker on their chest art MEPs to say just be honest. (People with pretty much zero medical history or issues, or at least it was a green marker when I went through.)

I’m not entirely sure but I would check around and see if there is a timeline for clearance after x amount of time post op.

Now personally it’s up to you whether you want to make the call or not. Surgeries are a lot harder to hide than other medical issues, so for now I would say your best bet is to see if there’s a timeline for post op to be cleared.

I will say, you go to any halfway decent unit and they don’t feel like they can trust you, you will be eaten.

 

[compforce]

I will say this. It is easy for those who got a green marker on their chest art MEPs to say just be honest. (People with pretty much zero medical history or issues, or at least it was a green marker when I went through.)

I’m not entirely sure but I would check around and see if there is a timeline for clearance after x amount of time post op.

Now personally it’s up to you whether you want to make the call or not. Surgeries are a lot harder to hide than other medical issues, so for now I would say your best bet is to see if there’s a timeline for post op to be cleared.

I will say, you go to any halfway decent unit and they don’t feel like they can trust you, you will be eaten.

Just to be clear, it took me 6 years to get my waiver to get back in... I didn't have a green marker

 

[DocCallahan]

Just to be clear, it took me 6 years to get my waiver to get back in... I didn't have a green marker

I wasn’t taking a shot at anybody in particular. I was actually referring to myself.

But that is a damn good example of who really wants it.

 

[Cannon850]

This is in no way meant to advise you to lie about the injury or potential surgery, only as an account of my situation

A few years before I joined I had a pretty bad Patellar dislocation resulting in torn cartilage and requiring arthroscopic surgery on my knee. The scaring was very minimal, really just 2 small scars on either side of my knee cap. When I enlisted I brought it up to my recruiter, he looked at my knee and said "it never happened". Roger that I said. I went on to serve on the conventional side, and then on to SF. It never came back up. Again, not advice just an honest account of my situation

 

[TimoteoDunkin]

Having been at MEPS last week and this week, when it came to the applicants there and the medical staff almost every applicant that disclosed anything on the remarks section for any boxes checked off as “yes” were given passage to proceed to a service liaison. Should they have chosen to hide it they probably would’ve disqualified themselves than to receive a waiver and go back later on. A prior service Army Sgt failed to disclose that he was getting VA disability for something he had and they caught on real quick, that happened this week. He’s disqualified to go Army again. When I was in I lied about getting a speeding ticket on base thinking I wouldn’t get the chance to try out for Counter Intell and that little incident kept me from going Counter Intell.

 

[F.CASTLE]

@F.CASTLE care to explain to me the dislike?

Regurgitated rhetoric. PMed, I'm not here to derail the post.