Covid-19

I’ll never be able to articulate this the way the scientist did that I just listen to, but doing the shut down thing only slows the spreading of the virus, it does not kill it.

At the end of the day, we are trying to outsmart nature. Simon says, that never works.

That was part of the point of 'flattening the curve' way back in March. But for a total, nationwide shutdown to work, everyone would need to lock in and isolate for about 6 weeks. Two weeks ain't gonna do spit.
 
That was part of the point of 'flattening the curve' way back in March. But for a total, nationwide shutdown to work, everyone would need to lock in and isolate for about 6 weeks. Two weeks ain't gonna do spit.
To me, Dr Katz in the video I posted above hit the nail on the head, at least from a common sense perspective. Even a lockdown doesn't stop the virus or it's impacts, it just moves the dates (by the way Bill Maher is a moron).
 
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I honestly probably just combined the statements from Weinstien and Osterholm, but same general idea.

Could a virus be stopped by massive shutdowns?

For sure.

Would we ever get a level of compliance that it would be a feasible course of action?

Probably not, unless it was something with a truly outrageous infection/death rate, like if Avian flu came back with transmisibility rates as high as COVID/common flu. Think that had a mortality rate ~60%.
 
It's kind of interesting...

With the announcement from Pfizer and BioNTech today stating it's vaccine is testing 90% effective, and other trials from companies like AstraZeneca and J&J also entering late stages, it appears Trump will deliver on his promise for a vaccine by year end.

Every major news outlet, along with others, scoffed at this promise when made during his RNC speech. I'm absolutely 100% convinced Biden would've never pushed this along the way it has.
 
So we get a vaccine on the market in rapid time...but because it's going to be available under the Trump Administration it's "too early"? Why does everything have to be political?

It's because it happened on Trump's watch. It was an impossibility.

As I mentioned in my previous post. When Trump made his promise, he was openly scoffed at by the media. There is simply no way Biden would've accelerated it this way.

There are many things I don't care for when it comes to Trump. Yeah, he makes some stupid and mean Tweets. However, one key thing he does bring is the willingness to set stretch goals and challenge people to go make them happen. Leaders need to have the willingness and mindset to achieve the impossible. Trump has that mindset and we're fortunate he did. He's done this with more than just the virus as well. So, kudos to him.
 
Someone break it down Barney-style for me: how would a total lockdown fix our CV-19 problem? We lockdown, but then open it back up and the disease is gone? It seems that we're just kicking the can down the road unless we 100% locked down the borders and managed to become an island.
 
Someone break it down Barney-style for me: how would a total lockdown fix our CV-19 problem? We lockdown, but then open it back up and the disease is gone? It seems that we're just kicking the can down the road unless we 100% locked down the borders and managed to become an island.

A virus is much simpler genomically than bacteria. It needs a host in order to survive and replicate. The theory is if everyone is isolated and no one is out spreading it then it would kill itself off after probably two life cycles or generations. Would it happen? Probably not. But that's the theory.
 
A virus is much simpler genomically than bacteria. It needs a host in order to survive and replicate. The theory is if everyone is isolated and no one is out spreading it then it would kill itself off after probably two life cycles or generations. Would it happen? Probably not. But that's the theory.
Essentially, the entire world would have to do it, yes?
 
Essentially, the entire world would have to do it, yes?

The more you could make this happen, theoretically the more chance of eradication. You can't even get a single county anywhere in this country to do it, much less a state. But even then, let's say the entire country did it, Canada doesn't do it, Mexico sure as hell doesn't do it, they keep international flights coming in, it starts spreading all over again, so yes, every country would have to do it.
 
So in other words, to defeat the virus we would have to do something that is practically impossible. That being the case, why do people even push this narrative?

"We should totally go back to the moon. All we have to do is launch a big enough rocket at it. Look how big it is, we can't miss!"
 
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