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I dont think a video is needed. If youre saying Fauci never said masks wont help prevent the spread of covid, I dont know where you were.
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I dont think a video is needed. If youre saying Fauci never said masks wont help prevent the spread of covid, I dont know where you were.
Plus: I'm a paramedic. I had OG plague. Natural immunity should occur. Got jabbed. Should be ok. Got plague again this past Jan. Dozens upon dozens of co-workers and nurse friends, same.
Our lord and savior clearly said it in the video: " If you're vaccinated, you're safe, if you're not, you're in danger". His words.
That changed to...
It'll keep you out of the ICU.
I can tell you from direct experience, not true either. Prior infection, triple jabbed, re-infection, ICU, a good amount including a doc I know.
Propaganda.
Thanks for the vid. Dude definitely stuck his foot in his mouth on the talk show circuit.
Reminds me of a video I saw about a month back with Paul Offit. He's one of the researchers who helped develop the rotavirus vaccine and serves(d) one the FDA vaccine committee.
He was highly critical of any and all medical info coming out of the White House, because that inherently made it political. He wanted everything to just be matter-of-fact weekly releases from the CDC.
He also had a bit about boosters, saying it seemed from his reading of the data that a 3 dose panel would work well for most people to prevent serious infection, and a 4 dose for high risk. He didn't see a need to treat it like a flu vaccine based on current data
And it's a wonder why folks are questioning "the science". You see my point?
Plus, if, the CDC actually put info out there, weekly, even if the disclaimer was, things change, this is a novel virus, folks would have listened.
Hell, I worked the entire plague thus far. The info we are STILL receiving is questionable, changes day to day, the CDC does not help, NIH is political.
Hell squared, once I had plague the second time, it was around the time the municipality I work for were essentially forcing its employees to get the shots by a certain date. I was double jabbed, figured, I needed to make a decision on the booster, then, a bunch of us medic and cops got sick.
Then, we were told, natural immunity, which was never discussed via CDC or NIH, the booster was not necessary.
Now, there's no talk of it. We are just waiting till gay pride
month and Juneteenth is done for our liberal Township Manager's to float back to vaccines, unless one of our cops ventilates some asshole in the projects. Lol. (tongue and cheek).
Hell, I worked the entire plague thus far. The info we are STILL receiving is questionable, changes day to day, the CDC does not help, NIH is political.
Hell squared, once I had plague the second time, it was around the time the municipality I work for were essentially forcing its employees to get the shots by a certain date. I was double jabbed, figured, I needed to make a decision on the booster, then, a bunch of us medic and cops got sick.
Then, we were told, natural immunity, which was never discussed via CDC or NIH, the booster was not necessary.
Now, there's no talk of it. We are just waiting till gay pride
month and Juneteenth is done for our liberal Township Manager's to float back to vaccines, unless one of our cops ventilates some asshole in the projects. Lol. (tongue and cheek).
Wow, I just re-read my post above. Sounds harsh. Not changing it though. It's true. This pandemic was made political with large snipets of virtue signaling and "we are all in this together" bullshit, until our elected officials displayed that they were above us, dining out when we were on lock down, haircuts when we were locked down.
Add, a knee on the neck of a subject in custody (I'll refrain from diaglogue on that, but I'll say it was wrong), the country protests and riots (mostly peaceful) while citizens protesting the lock downs were called murderers and plague rats.
#worstpandemicever
Add, a knee on the neck of a subject in custody (I'll refrain from diaglogue on that, but I'll say it was wrong), the country protests and riots (mostly peaceful) while citizens protesting the lock downs were called murderers and plague rats.
#worstpandemicever
Canada is already laying the ground work for 4th dose before the fall. I guarantee you, it's only a matter of time before the CDC and White House starts. Think of all those doses paid for and haven't been delivered due to people not believing the garbage. Canada alone bought over 400 million doses for a population of 38 million. Not including any recent purchases, last year the US had already purchased 750 million doses for 332 million American's.
That's a lot of wasted tax dollar's and I bet the companies want their contracts fulfilled; even of the product is junk and not even remotely effective as it was intended.
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So, evidently firing troopers for not getting the jab simply isn't enough for Massachusetts:
Tyrannical Mass State Police head revokes firearms permits of troopers fired for not submitting to jabs
This could easily be tied in to the tyranny conversation in the gun control thread as well. There are no lines that some won't cross.
Tyrannical Mass State Police head revokes firearms permits of troopers fired for not submitting to jabs
This could easily be tied in to the tyranny conversation in the gun control thread as well. There are no lines that some won't cross.
Gonna disagree on this, not on the basis of the MA license to carry requirements (which are dumb, but a sperate convo) but the idea (presented by the article) that fired troopers somehow have more "rights" that they're entitled to.
That's not the case. For example, I'm a Federal LEO (for the BOP). I'm authorized under the LEOSA (LEO Safety Act) to concealed carry in all 50 states without permit, despite local laws. I can do this as long as I'm an LEO and once I retire/leave a LEO agency after 10 years of service.
My ability to do this is based on being in "good standing" though. If I get fired/resign my post for fighting local PD at a local bar's karaoke night, I'll lose my authority under the LEOSA. (That fight example is based on an actual situation with staff here).
This is from the State Department page, so it says "federal", but it's also applicable to state employment.
The bolded areas are the ones that apply here.
The officers were fired. The don't get special LEO privileges, because they aren't "qualified separated" officers.
Edit to add: I'm just now seeing that the article was written by a retired police chief. So his statement that
either means he knows less about the LEOSA than we learn literally the first week on the job, or he's lying.
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They weren't fired for a bar fight or any other legal malfeasance. They were fired because they declined to get a shot that's widely proven to be ineffective in preventing contagion. It's absurd.
The fact there are still people out there continuing to push this nonsense (take the jab or lose your job) is really sad. It's a complete power play; not rooted in any logic or science. Firing them wasn't enough, so they're going to place some additional hurdles out there as well.
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Concur.
The military did the same thing the medical and airline communities did: fire a bunch of people over a vaccine that doesn't work, and now they're facing an exacerbated labor shortage.
I used the fight as just an example, but that's besides the point. There are no "additional hurdles" being place on them.
They were fired; full stop. Doesn't matter if they got a DUI, kept showing up to work late, or refused the vaccine. If they were legally fired, they don't get to keep LEO benefits.
Don't make them more equal animals than they are.
Again, we can talk about whether it's "Fair or proper" for them to get fired for COVID vax, but nothing special is occurring to them that does not happen to any other fired LEO.
Regarding the termination of LEOs. The City of Pittsburgh has been literally hemorrhaging officers the last few years and the pandemic further decimated the ranks due to the flurry of retirements. You would think the City would be stepping up recruitment and making efforts to keep the officers they still have. But... nope. The other day they sent letters to officers threatening terminations after the City stopped negotiating with the police union. It is my understanding from folks in the know that the "40 %" (the number of officers in question) requesting exemptions had their resignation papers in order. With the crime rate in the City skyrocketing (multiple shootings daily) I guess someone in the current Admin realized this was not a good time to further gut the ranks? SMH
Disciplinary action for unvaccinated Pittsburgh police officers ‘temporarily put on hold’
Disciplinary action for unvaccinated Pittsburgh police officers ‘temporarily put on hold’
It’s going to get everyone eventually brother, that’s one of the many reasons everyone needs to stop worrying about it.
Best wishes for a mild car and a speedy recovery.
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So, I'm five days post positive test.
Day -1: started feeling like shit on the plan, but thought that was because I smashed a whole bag of Reeves trail mix.
Day 0: packing up house, lots of Phoenix sun. Achy as fuck. Took test, popped fast. Showered and then shivered in bed. Did not have a fever.
Day 1: packing, lots of sun, felt achy, but not as bad. Drove to El Paso, very energy sapping.
Day 2: least amount of achyness. Drove to Ft Worth. Still no fever.
Day 3: unpacked everything in the new apartment. Packed everything up from my homie's house, dropped it off at the apartment.
Day 4: pretty good, but had some diarrhea.
Day 5: went on a hike and got a sweat on. Otherwise feel pretty good.
For me this was like a weak flu or bad cold.
Background: Broken down 33 yr old horse cavalryman. 5-9, 215#. Generally eat a lot of veggies and take my vitamins. Also had two shots of J&J. Think the first shot of J&J was worse, except this lasted longer.
Day -1: started feeling like shit on the plan, but thought that was because I smashed a whole bag of Reeves trail mix.
Day 0: packing up house, lots of Phoenix sun. Achy as fuck. Took test, popped fast. Showered and then shivered in bed. Did not have a fever.
Day 1: packing, lots of sun, felt achy, but not as bad. Drove to El Paso, very energy sapping.
Day 2: least amount of achyness. Drove to Ft Worth. Still no fever.
Day 3: unpacked everything in the new apartment. Packed everything up from my homie's house, dropped it off at the apartment.
Day 4: pretty good, but had some diarrhea.
Day 5: went on a hike and got a sweat on. Otherwise feel pretty good.
For me this was like a weak flu or bad cold.
Background: Broken down 33 yr old horse cavalryman. 5-9, 215#. Generally eat a lot of veggies and take my vitamins. Also had two shots of J&J. Think the first shot of J&J was worse, except this lasted longer.
Another instance of the vaccine that was supposed to keep us from getting COVID, not keeping us from getting COVID.
"But it kept his symptoms from being much worse!" that's entirely possible, but impossible to prove. And I remain unapologetically skeptical.
Like many of us, skeptical. Even us in the medical field.
